Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Unusual fuckup: AA 3 times with the same woman. How?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Unusual fuckup: AA 3 times with the same woman. How?

    Using your intuition when approaching is great.
    This time I was approached at the time I wanted to approach a woman who was strongly radiating something. She was seated close to a bar. The set was a 2-set and the girl invited me like this: "Come here.". When I arrived she started to laugh and she said 'We have just eaten". I was about to start talking but the lighting was poor and I could not see really well. I spontaneously decided to leave.
    After a week or so, I found out by mistake that she was working in a shop. She always stands outside waiting for the customers to come in. My mindset always prevents me to approach girls at their workplace but this time I had no other option. Once I was walking outside her workplace and she delivered the Universal Opener.
    I said "Hi!" and went on walking. I always have problems to stop to talk to girls, it just doesn't feel natural.
    My third chance was another day that I was feeling down while I was alone in a cafe. I was seating on a table and I was facing the girl's shop. I accidentally found out that she was there working again. She was talking to coworker and they both started to stare at me. Again something was happening perhaps and I could take action. She then started using her mobile phone to shoot some shelfies. She was taking a lot of shelfies so as to get people's attention.
    After half an hour I decided to get up and leave. I walked to the cashier's and I was waiting there in order to pay. All of the sudden the girl entered the building I was in and she grabbed a bottle of water off the fridge. She came really close to me and she was standing there. I sensed that she was doing something on purpose. Again AA, I did nothing.
    Looking for solutions....

  • #2
    Reading this I recognize myself. My guess is your problem is you are thinking too much, have no flow (social momentum) and have a serious/negative view on socializing.

    Read answers on this thread: http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.p...roaching-women

    Comment


    • #3
      Follow your intuition: Your intuition is telling you that you don't want to be a approach robot (what your AA is about). Solution only approach girls who show you solid interest pre approach as you go about your life (my recommendation). You force her to show that she would like you to talk to her non verbally from across the room. Easy. Takes filed tesitng.

      This route forces you to work on the important things like style and body language instead of verbal tricks.

      This really beats hitting up every girls in a mile radius and gives you a sense of confidence pre approach LOL

      This style also results in girls having no LMR.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
        Follow your intuition: Your intuition is telling you that you don't want to be a approach robot (what your AA is about). Solution only approach girls who show you solid interest pre approach as you go about your life (my recommendation).
        You can follow your intuition after you've had some experience... but if you're still struggling with AA chances are your intuition does more harm than good.

        So gaining experience with COLD approaching is a must. Fighting with AA is like convincing yourself to step into cold water... sure your mind will tell you to choose the warm water instead... but by going for the colder option in spite of anxiety is how grit is built. Simply pouncing off approach invites is a form of cutting the corners which doesn't help in the development of a complete skill set. If someone wants to get good at day game... they cannot be relying on any crutches whatsoever.

        Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
        This route forces you to work on the important things like style and body language instead of verbal tricks.
        Why not develop both? Lol.

        Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
        This style also results in girls having no LMR.
        My experiences don't reflect this... but you may have had some different experiences... so I can't say anything for sure.

        However I do not think that AI's are a surefire way to avoid LMR.
        “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

        Comment


        • #5
          Bacchus: It's not hard to read a non verbal Approach Invitation it's easier in my opinion and totally within a beginners grasp. I would recommend the original poster to read Pheromone Kid or Steve Jabba for guidance on how to do it.

          Any guy knows whats up when a girl is smiling at them and hairflipping. If it's not blatantly obvious then it's not a strong enough indicator of interest to capitalize on.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
            Bacchus: It's not hard to read a non verbal Approach Invitation it's easier in my opinion and totally within a beginners grasp. I would recommend the original poster to read Pheromone Kid or Steve Jabba for guidance on how to do it.
            Yes you're completely right. It is easy. But therein lies the problem.

            Once anyone is has reached a level of proficiency like Steve Jabba and the Pheromone Kid obviously have... then they are free to chose whether or not to take what is easy or go for what is tough. My point is just that... choice. Approach invitation or not... it doesn't make a difference. However a beginner is not able to make that choice. And will eventually become reliant on whatever crutch they went for to make things easier. Day Game is ultimately about freedom of choice.

            Confining oneself to what is easy severely limits that freedom.

            My suggestion is to tackle that AA head on and build some grit. Within a matter of months, or weeks if you push it. AA will cease to be an issue.

            Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
            Any guy knows whats up when a girl is smiling at them and hairflipping. If it's not blatantly obvious then it's not a strong enough indicator of interest to capitalize on.
            I'll ask a question... which do you think is better?

            Solely being able to capitalize and lay girls who throw signals of attraction your way. Or being able to hit the right triggers and have them throw these signals after a few minutes and also being able to capitalize on AI's if you get them.
            “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

            Comment


            • #7
              both of you are right....Discovery talks about this on periscope and our facebook group...3 second rule......Yeah you need to practice and fuck up your social value..but also common sense dictates you do not do that in your hometown/smalltown ..the solution is go to the next town over and cold approach like a boss..you get the practice you NEED and you do not FUCK UP your social value in the areas you frequent!

              Comment


              • #8
                Bacchus:I don't feel guilty at all for advising a newbie this because it's a extremely efficient way to utilize your time and because I just see it becoming an easier and easier thing to do in time.

                Comment


                • #9
                  I'm a bit confused. Your points are quite valid... but they are irrelevant to the discussion. And it seems like you're ignoring my questions/shifting the discussion.

                  Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
                  Bacchus:I don't feel guilty at all for advising a newbie this because it's a extremely efficient way to utilize your time and because I just see it becoming an easier and easier thing to do in time.
                  Never mentioned guilt Pool Player. My point was... yes it is easy. But the easy stuff has to be earned.

                  If someone has a sticking point like AA. Taking a shortcut like AI hunting is a crutch that inhibits development. Because it limits the freedom of choice. It's similar to foregoing learning your times tables and leaning on your calculator instead... a choice that's quite harmful when it comes to learning mathematics.
                  “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    If it resonates with any of the posters out there so be it if not thats cool too. Ive made my points clear that it easier and not harder. Screening made game for me 100 percent easier not harder. They can bust through there AA by approaching girls who show interest as well. I'm not limiting there freedom of choice but giving them more options of which are more efficient and less invasive to the red girls. If it doesn't resonate or work for a poster they won't use the advice (so your point about them using it as a crutch and not properly learning game is not valid in my opinion).

                    If they find they don't like efficiency and want freedom of choice nothing is stopping them from spam approaching there whole city up. It's just not what I would do and seems counter productive in reducing AA. Approaching a interested girl reduces the anxiety and builds confidence in ones skills.

                    The reason I would not spam approach my whole city is becuase it's not a calibrated approach to gaming girls.
                    I know this because I've heard a girls firsthand opinion on it.

                    There are plenty of girls who you can force a AI from. And I don't feel approaching is necessary at all.

                    I will not discuss this any further as I've already stated how I feel about it and do not wish to any further because I don't enjoy it.
                    Last edited by ThePoolPlayer; 06-13-2016, 07:01 AM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
                      Ive made my points clear that it easier and not harder. Screening made game for me 100 percent easier not harder. They can bust through there AA by approaching girls who show interest as well. I'm not limiting there freedom of choice but giving them more options of which are more efficient and less invasive to the red girls. If it doesn't resonate or work for a poster they won't use the advice (so your point about them using it as a crutch and not properly learning game is not valid in my opinion).
                      With the possibility of sounding redundant... if someone who is new to day game sticks to only approaching girls who show interest... which is easier like you said... then they are limited to that. Without beating AA, those are they only girls they can approach. It will become a comfort zone. And you better believe that the AA will come back when they want to go for a girl who does not show any AI's. That is what is meant by a crutch.

                      Calling it efficient or uncalibrated is just an excuse for a low level of influence skills.

                      Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
                      If they find they don't like efficiency and want freedom of choice nothing is stopping them from spam approaching there whole city up. It's just not what I would do and seems counter productive in reducing AA. Approaching a interested girl reduces the anxiety and builds confidence in ones skills.
                      The first sentence is a straw man argument. Excessive approaching was not what I was advocating. AA can be surmounted without going that far into the extreme.

                      Second sentence is a KJ statement. This is how I and other seducers got over AA, you are saying it seems counter productive. And yet you haven't done it yourself.

                      The third line is partly true, but the confidence built is a confidence in an incomplete skill set. Here's the beautiful thing though, with a proper skill-set you can influence a neutral girl to the point that she'd like to jump your bones. But you cannot get to this point by limiting yourself to AI's. If you don't believe me, ask any of the members who started with crutch game and then made the switch to cold approach. I'm quite sure they'll back me up on this.

                      Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
                      The reason I would not spam approach my whole city is becuase it's not a calibrated approach to gaming girls.
                      I know this because I've heard a girls firsthand opinion on it.
                      Okay cool. So one girl gave you her opinion and you're willing to put that against hours upon hours of field experience?

                      Originally posted by ThePoolPlayer View Post
                      I will not discuss this any further as I've already stated how I feel about it and do not wish to any further because I don't enjoy it.
                      Well I would believe this bit that I quoted here... except you edited your post a couple times to flesh out your argument. Implying that you want to cement your point.
                      “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I don't like the idea of only going for girls who give AI, that is making socializing and flirting way bigger of a deal than it really is. I prefer to instead listen to my body. Let attraction grow freely without interference of the mind and then go uninhibitedly whenever – and only when – you feel the pull towards something, then you will be very even-keeled.

                        As a slightly off-topic side-note: I think I may have found the perfect out of state vibe for day game. Briefly it is about a feeling of being beaten up by life but still keeping your chin up, keeping the fire inside burning. The weight on your shoulders only makes you more grounded, you don't care anymore. You look at a hot girl and view her as an attainable goddess on a pedestal, that thing you once had but lost. Your longing eyes speak of deep respect, sadness, horniness and hope.

                        That feeling makes you feel yummy inside (which often removes AA), and those eyes I believe makes the the girl feel special and beautiful and moistens her pussy.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Why would you not have it 3 times if you had it 1 time? The only solution to AA is to force through it with willpower. Plainly this is a case where you keep seeing the girl even though you didn't talk to her the first 3 times, so you are at liberty in the future to choose what seems to you like the opportune moment, since you will continue to see her several more times. However, I would recommend getting it over with sooner rather than later. As the number of missed opportunities racks up she will become more likely to interpret you as weird or craven, or not genuinely interested, or creepily plotting to assault her in some manner. It will never be a positive interpretation.

                          solution: next time you see her, assuming there is not a genuine obstacle like she's in a meeting with her boss or something like that, force yourself with a sudden blast of willpower​ to approach
                          http://irontommagic.tumblr.com/
                          Iron Tom has risen again, greater and more terrible than ever before
                          thou hadst little wit in thy bald crown when thou gavest thy golden one away
                          I welcome wings of all levels and styles - PM me!
                          Brad P. Pickup Mansion Alum 2010

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I always hate it when I have to deal with issues like AA.
                            If I keep insisting on the same girl she will reckon that I have oneitis about her.
                            How can this weirdness can this be explained? What is so weird about this girl?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dateathome View Post
                              I always hate it when I have to deal with issues like AA.
                              Some people always have AA, even after thousands of experiences. Be happy if that's not the case for you

                              Originally posted by Dateathome View Post
                              What is so weird about this girl?
                              It's unusual in that you are seeing the girl repeatedly. Normally when you see a hot girl you have a brief window of opportunity to approach, and if you don't approach that would be the end of it because you would never see the girl again. In this case you are seeing the girl over and over again, and you keep not approaching, so the girl lingers in your mind and takes on a weird significance. Just get it over with and approach her at the next opportunity
                              http://irontommagic.tumblr.com/
                              Iron Tom has risen again, greater and more terrible than ever before
                              thou hadst little wit in thy bald crown when thou gavest thy golden one away
                              I welcome wings of all levels and styles - PM me!
                              Brad P. Pickup Mansion Alum 2010

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X