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  • Introduction to The cheating model aka "monogamy"

    Disclaimer: not a moral post and cheating can cause the following consequences:
    99% chance of getting caught no matter what, drama, pain(physical and emotional), money loss, shame,property damage etc...*Kendra video and Oj Simpson example.

    Also there are better models as you can see guys like tubs, bd, $ matteo etc... But in my experience most players in real life do what i will describe, i never met in real life good naturals doing the stuff posted on sedfast when it comes to relationships, so this is based on my 20 plus years in the field with real life naturals and what they do including myself...
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    “Monogamy” – When the word “monogamous” or “monogamy” is used in quotes, that refers to relationships that are supposed to be monogamous, and might look monogamous to the outside world, but really aren’t. There’s cheating going on, by at least one partner. “Monogamy” also refers to relationships where one or both parties promise monogamy, but deep down have no intention of keeping that promise. “Monogamous” relationships are extremely common, and in terms of non-married relationships, are almost the norm in the modern era, particularly among younger people. “Monogamous” relationships are prone to extreme drama, for obvious reasons.
    credit.- Blackdragon
    I get ask privately A LOT, about cheating and stuff like that, and what to do in situations when you get caught etc...
    Bd is right about a lot of stuff when it comes to marriage, most of the people that think they are doing monogamy in the real world are really in some type of fucked up oltr(they cheat on the side) I am talking new generations and one of the top causes of divorce tops finances based on statistics. This is true for guys that are high sex drive player types...

    Ok so, i am going to show you ways that i have used to minimize the chances of getting caught, and what to do if you get caught...(fuck off if you do not like the term getting caught)

    1.- The most important thing is to go into a ltr mono relationship the right way this is SUPER important. The best situation is to have a rotation of women that are competing for you, you can check the post by pure evil talks about this http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.p...Pair-Bond-Rush
    though the rotation and she wins you over is the best frame but a lot of guys do not have a rotation, you can still get away with a good frame if at the beginning she is emotionally more invested in you.(for example qlue girlfriend)

    2.- there has to be the early frame that you have days, or nights during the week when you do a hobby, activity, guys night out etc... For example my frame is that my hobby is dancing, so on the weekends i get to go dancing since is my hobby, same with capoeira, gymnastics etc... Now here is the caveat, a lot of dudes start with similar frames, but they fuck it up with the "consistency". Let me make an analogy, let say you have a fb, that you see once a week and you fuck, then all of a sudden you take her out to dinner twice a week, you just confuse her and fucked up the frame. Well, the same happens in a relationship, for example i go out every weekend on Fridays and Saturdays, if i stop doing that and during those time taking my main to dinner, i just fucked up the frame and send missignals, and 100% likely i will get drama.

    3.- The phone, the phone and facebook are your biggest enemies and the #1 reason dudes get caught, let me repeat this cause is super super important YOUR PHONE IS YOUR NUMBER 1 ENEMY. FACEBOOK IS YOUR NUMBER 2 ENEMY. So how we can get around that, well this is super difficult cause if you lock your phone is red flags to some women(i fucked up this frame by not locking my phone from day one, so if i lock it now it will send red flags get me), so what you need to do is TO NEVER GIVE OUT YOUR PHONE OR FACEBOOK. I never give out my real name(not even puas who met me in person know who i am), anyways keep your life a mistery. So skills how you talk to women if you are so big on texting/sexting and you claim you fuck a lot of women. Well good question, the answer is for the 100th time GOOGLE VOICE, that is the shit(all my lay and field reports are copy and paste google voice, does not get more real than that, to my knowledge i am the only dude doing live unedited lay and field reports). Now i learned from all the fucked up drama that i got about 10 years or so ago, from myspace, so now facebook, i am doing well. But do not fucking give facebook or your real identity to new women, you will get caught, some women even make fake profiles to get info. from your girl or fuck with you(some psycho did that shit to me).

    4.- Oh well, yes there are people this fucking dumb but i got a mention this obvious one. DO NOT FUCK WOMEN IN THE CRIB YOU SHARE WITH YOUR GIRL NO MATTER WHAT. I do not care if she works out of town for 5 days, i do not care if she works 10 hours away, neve eve eve ever fuck a girl in a place were you live together. Suicide!(well look what happened with oj simpson) So how do we get around this one: motels or her place or ______.

    A technique to use to fuck in motels is to make it not a big deal, just frame the motel as your apartment, i tell them trolling i will take her to my apt. and then i take them to a motel, i say let me talk to my parents(pay the motel people while she waits in the car), they know was sup, take her to a motel and joke around "do you like my apartment" etc... I talk about this in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFK3tMjW-yM

    5.- another obvious shit but guys are too dumb.- Do not mess around in places were people that know your girl and know you are her man go. One of the many reasons i am against social circle type game.

    6.- accesories:

    Fabreeze (odor spray).- kill odors fast. This is specially important for me, since i fuck a lot of women in the car from the clubs.

    extra set of clothes.- the clothes you used try to have them done in a dry cleaner next day, sometimes, hairs, lipstick, perfume will be there.(my main does my laundry)

    Shower after

    Alcohol.- when you go raw with a girl if you were to fuck another girl, may give that other girl yeast, bacterial infection etc... To avoid this you need to spray alcohol on your dick, the way i do it is i have a spray battle fill with alcohol and i spray it in my dick aka skills junior.

    7.- If you live alone.- when going to your house with a girl, make sure you complicate the way to get to your house in a way the girl does not remember where it is, this is helpful with some of the psychos.

    8.- do not be using the phone or texting with your main often. My main knows i never pick up the phone or text back, and is a mission to get in contact with me. This is a very good frame that will be help full, the busy business dude.

    9.- Do not partner ever, with women for cover ups specially on the phone or printed media. *Kendra video.

    10.- Do not trust women to stay quiet ever, and be loyal and not talk. Women will back stab you, specially when they know they will not be number one. *Kendra video.

    I still favor the oltr type model (which is very similar to the cheating model, but the girl does not get to fuck the other dudes "theoretically" of course she may, and probably she will) but when i follow for example bd and what happened to him with his 5 year mltr(the asian one), i still weighting pros and cons, favoring the cheating model with a twist,I will explain:

    I still favor no the cheating model per se... But the SUPER PLAYER, you got your prize, cheating model "i am a player you are #1, but on the down low lets not talk about it look the other way, and do not dig type model while you are mono, or pretend momo,you are more than free to be sexual and be a whore if you want to, that is ok with me i will not control you dynamics)

    Again I will narrow down why the cheating model fails.

    1.- girl is not happy or put number 1 vs other girls.(most of the time when you get caught this is why they give you drama and all they care about is being number 1 and reassurance you will not leave them)

    2.- dude fuck up with the dynamics on the girls on the side, letting them believe she has a chance (tubs video best shit i have seen explaining this). This is were a lot of the "verbal/suave naturals fuck up aka a lot of the black players.

    3.- too much overcompensation when caught which translate into i did it. Players overcompensate and go into the "typical nice guy"behavior and is repulsive to the girl and will push her away more.

    4.- avoiding the convo. if you get caught. If you get caught and you will, you have to sit down, and act pocker face, and deny, no matter what, do not go into a long fucking story, cause if she ask again you will forget and/or change the story 50 times. *dane cook video...

    5.- deny deny deny admit= horrible vs deny deny deny and deny. No matter what bs story you create, she will believe it, cause is easier for her too.*

    * more on that Dane Cook video.

    6.- dictatorship = you can not do this you can not do that, you got a be a maddonna.

    7.- getting comfortable, and not managing her, lack lg says, she still has to be investing, encourage to invest, and you have to make her some what happy. If she is not happy or somewhat happy this model dyes a quick death.

    8.- paranoia, i am a player cheating let me project onto you and go all paranoid on you, micromanaging the girl... This is horrible and stressful. *dane cook video

    9.- Guys totally become beta and take the female role.



    10.- lack of polarization. Again men, becaming yes man, being, needy and taking a female role, while she takes the masculine role... Best example is Kendra the former playboy girl when caught her hubby, the dude became a little bitch, and she is practically a dude


    *dane cook video.-





    edit.- i totally forgot this ones(credit dateathome):

    "- Keeping condoms in the car or a bag, or keeping digital photos of a girl in your mobile phone. " - ok in the wallet or in places were the condoms can be found, i hide my condoms in the trunk of the car. I never take or keep pics of girls on the phone i have them "email" them to me.

    "- Reacting to things and getting angry about things in the house may cause suspicions in the experienced eye." .- exactly i cover this point in going into "nice guy" mode or "long explanations".

    "- When you are married neglecting things and keeping yourself isolated in the room may cause suspicions." - I never really had this issue...But i had problems doing-Sudden covering up type moves and getting, weird, unusual behaviors when she walks into a room were i thought i was alone...
    Last edited by Skills360; 11-23-2014, 09:14 PM.



  • #2
    Nice. Some great points and advice. No time for a point by point elaboration or reation but in my experience this is by far the most common model for naturals playing the society game to their benefit. I also personally favor OLTR as the best long term option, or serial mono for the rush. But yes, the above is what naturals who don't explore the depths of relationship game do. And their girls are usually quite fine with it to a point, even if "caught." Girls know what's up with naturals and "alphas."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kant
      I currently have a BD-style oLTR setup and we are very happy and drama free. The cheating model sounds way too stressful to me.. I don't want fear in my life, and that paranoia leading you to only use google voice and have an extra change of clothes and all this other shit seems like living with fear to me.

      yea i am living in tons of fear, now hiding under the bed.... I love google voice, i hate texting from the phone anyways, there is no paranoia and there is no drama, do you even know what google voice is?... I get to do the same shit you do... Finally, you just been with your girl less than 6 months and not live in, just saying.

      Edit... Kent my tone came across a bit harsh, but not intended(i know you are cool, you don't mind), this post is about a poster that pm me cause he got caught, so i decided instead of replying privately to a question people ask me a lot, point out the mistakes and ways to minimize drama and getting caught...
      as i told you the best model is oltr, but i have not met true naturals in real life doing it successfully other than people in sedfast(and to my knowledge only one name jetset who does online game, maybe dude and you less than 6 months and not live in) who i never met irl. I have seen people in the swinclubs, but i do not know them well or are i am very close to them. I rather to have the french thin man model, old school.

      (P/r) Have OLTRs or Wives with whom they have elaborate domestic relationships, but have other seductions going on discreetly on the side, usually with the main woman’s knowledge and even acceptance. The French Marriage as opposed to the Mediterranean Marriage.
      Last edited by Skills360; 11-23-2014, 04:14 AM.


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      • #4
        This OP just looks to me like a big list of reasons not to cheat, lol.

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        • #5
          Well, yeah, in reality most guys are going to do this as an "easy way out" rather than laying it down and saying "Listen, I'm never going to be monogamous." And predictably it's going to be dramatic.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Faust View Post
            This OP just looks to me like a big list of reasons not to cheat, lol.

            you are right, but is not as bad as complicated as the post laid it out, again that is probably how most relationships are, specially the type of players that go mono... Ex. cloony, janka, style, 60,sleazy etc... Of course i am speculating, but if i have to put money on it, they will end up like i kind of describe in the post.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by donkaktus View Post
              Well, yeah, in reality most guys are going to do this as an "easy way out" rather than laying it down and saying "Listen, I'm never going to be monogamous." And predictably it's going to be dramatic.

              Donkaktus, let say you do not want "easy way out" which by the way makes no sense to me... Nobady says i am gonna be mono and then cheat, is not how it happens... Usually players go into mono cause they like spending and enjoying the girl vs the rotation(trust me you will get there and you will understand, actually ALL players have been or will get there, specially as they get older) P.s. it is a horrible idea to be verbalizing "relationship status" to women, it has to be sub communicated. Analogy is telling a woman, can i put my dick inside? vs turning her on and putting your dick in. P.s. this is totally the opposite of easy way out... Easy way out is mltr set up, 50 times easier.


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              • #8
                Here are a few ways you can get caught according to experience:
                - Keeping condoms in the car or a bag, or keeping digital photos of a girl in your mobile phone.
                - Reacting to things and getting angry about things in the house may cause suspicions in the experienced eye.
                - When you are married neglecting things and keeping yourself isolated in the room may cause suspicions.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dateathome View Post
                  Here are a few ways you can get caught according to experience:
                  - Keeping condoms in the car or a bag, or keeping digital photos of a girl in your mobile phone.
                  - Reacting to things and getting angry about things in the house may cause suspicions in the experienced eye.
                  - When you are married neglecting things and keeping yourself isolated in the room may cause suspicions.

                  Excellent, i fucking forgot let me include in the op... shit! thanks!


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