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  • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
    Lol, exactly what I was thinking...

    Sase... I don't even know where to begin. You cherry pick, that is for sure. I listen to people in sales. It's how I do so good.
    I lis
    tened to my hairdresser, it's how I ended up going out with her. In fact, I was doing FINE till I came here for advice.

    This is just too complicated to address but I'll say this: My passion IS to get good at pick up, so get with the program or ignore me. Your choice.

    Other passions I have are making money, becoming strong, I want to get into boxing, and I want to fight. I also want to help re-plant forests in areas like the sahara and australia and improve the world for future generations.

    However, a LOT of what you say is biased, I know, because there are many guys who are "selfish assholes" who get laid. How do I know? Cause chicks complain about these guys ALL THE TIME.


    So don't BS me.
    Sales and seduction go hand in hand...

    Sarge have your Read models mark manson???

    pm me i will get it for you..
    Sexting, my unique natural game, aggressive dance floor seductions, 15-20 minutes hook ups in clubs. Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a club type environment, check out my blog and youtube clubbing channel:

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    • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
      ...
      I listened to my hairdresser, it's how I ended up going out with her. In fact, I was doing FINE till I came here for advice...
      Exactly!

      This is just too complicated to address but I'll say this: My passion IS to get good at pick up, ...
      Doesn't count. It's not even advanced knowledge: women love a passionate man. He can be obsessive about almost any subject except very few. Most notably: women. I figured this out when I was seventeen. I checked it then with my girl-friends and they all confirmed it. In the thirty years since I've learned that, I've not had any proof to the contrary.

      Other passions I have are making money, ...
      Go to business school. Start investing, your own business, etc. Money is so common that being passionate about it is like saying: I like eating. Nothing wrong with it if you are Anthony Bourdain. I'm not saying you have to be Warren Buffet but if you were passionate about making money you would be retired and living off passive income by now. Get off this site and check out some like the ones below:

      https://momanddadmoney.com/blog/
      http://www.gocurrycracker.com/never-pay-taxes-again/
      http://lackingambition.com/?p=911
      http://earlyretirementextreme.com/manifesto.html
      http://thepowerofthrift.com/well-hello-there-2/
      http://jlcollinsnh.com/stock-series/
      http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/
      http://www.1500days.com/me-and-jimmy-c-and-a-contest/#more-10718
      http://www.greaterfool.ca/about-garth-turner/

      Those are examples of people passionate about money. You?


      ...becoming strong, I want to get into boxing, and I want to fight...
      Good. Join a boxing club. Or try kick-boxing, Tae-Kwan-Do or some other variation. Boxing can be pretty intense and specialized. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're running out of time (especially for your weight category) After 35 or so you'll be running an uphill fight against faster, stronger, more agile guys. No time to waste. Also make sure you're bulking cause you love it, not to pick up girls.


      ...I also want to help re-plant forests in areas like the sahara and australia and improve the world for future generations.
      Excellent. Can I recommend the work of Geoff Lawton. I took a workshop with him once. Fabulous, inspiring man. But this is the wrong forum for that work. Get off your ass (and off this forum) and do it. Take a Permaculture workshop, go to Australia, etc.Bill Mollison would also have been a wonderful mentor but he died last year. Check out his work.



      However, a LOT of what you say is biased, I know, because there are many guys who are "selfish assholes" who get laid. How do I know? Cause chicks complain about these guys ALL THE TIME.


      So don't BS me.
      And here is where I throw my hands in the air and give up. You are a master of this, twisting words, finding excuses, etc. I did not say selfish assholes don't get laid. I said the reason you are boring and unfuckable is your (very own brand of) selfishness and laziness. Let me add stubbornness to change.
      Yes, lots of assholes get laid but you, Sir, ain't Marlon Brando

      Do you not see what I mean??? God, you're infuriating!!!
      Lots of assholes get laid. Some that are scrawnier, more selfish than you, less motivated, less stylish, messier apartments, less funny, etc., etc., etc. But you ain't got what they have and you are refusing to change. My advice was geared to help you. Try to understand and not to find reasons my advice might sound like BS. With logic you can take apart anything.

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      • Originally posted by Sase View Post
        Really, Skills?! As if Sarge wasn't good enough at extracting non-essential details and looking everywhere but where he is pointed towards. Do you wander why he is confused by your advice? I expected him to point that out ... but you?! How is that helping him? Yes, the guy in the photo has worked out a pump, you'd be surprised how fast it happens when you have to cling to the wall like he must have been for the photo session. Most climbers prefer less bulk, more lean strength and flexibility. Bulk can be an impediment.
        Sarge, your physique is NOT what prevents you in pick-up.
        here is by skills:

        you are not deformed and you should be getting LAID(as you look now) if you put in the numbers, your problem based on your posts, your field reports etc... is some game and social dynamics need improvement...
        Sexting, my unique natural game, aggressive dance floor seductions, 15-20 minutes hook ups in clubs. Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a club type environment, check out my blog and youtube clubbing channel:

        www.dancefloorseduction.com









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        • Originally posted by Impulse View Post
          Lol, doesnt matter who's shit it is bro - he's dumped it ON YOU - and its affecting YOUR results.

          Tell him to take his shit and put it in his room - lets see if he still keeps his girlfriend around then or not. Youve got it back to front man
          Technically this stuff is in his room. He doesn't have a room. He sleeps on the couchin in the main area (where this pic is taken)


          Originally posted by Impulse View Post
          You have a habit of losing your cool instantly when your beliefs are challenged...you need to snap out of that
          K bro.

          Originally posted by Impulse View Post
          Your brothers shit should be in his fuckin room, not yours. If he won't take it, dump it in the fuckin street, that's what I'd do

          Your own fuckin brother is screwing you over with his shit whilst he happily fucks his girlfriend...man...wake up!!!!
          See above.



          Originally posted by Sase View Post
          Exactly!
          While we're on the subject of my hairdresser I should also mention that the only reason I got her as my regular hairdresser was because I decided it would be best in order to seduce her. So I made her my regular and PLANNED the seduction. Obsessing over how I would get her, and it was working till I adopted some poor advice from on here...

          Originally posted by Sase View Post
          Doesn't count. It's not even advanced knowledge: women love a passionate man. He can be obsessive about almost any subject except very few. Most notably: women. I figured this out when I was seventeen. I checked it then with my girl-friends and they all confirmed it. In the thirty years since I've learned that, I've not had any proof to the contrary.
          There's next to nothing else that I'm passionate about.

          Originally posted by Sase View Post
          Go to business school. Start investing, your own business, etc. Money is so common that being passionate about it is like saying: I like eating. Nothing wrong with it if you are Anthony Bourdain. I'm not saying you have to be Warren Buffet but if you were passionate about making money you would be retired and living off passive income by now. Get off this site and check out some like the ones below:

          https://momanddadmoney.com/blog/
          http://www.gocurrycracker.com/never-pay-taxes-again/
          http://lackingambition.com/?p=911
          http://earlyretirementextreme.com/manifesto.html
          http://thepowerofthrift.com/well-hello-there-2/
          http://jlcollinsnh.com/stock-series/
          http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/
          http://www.1500days.com/me-and-jimmy-c-and-a-contest/#more-10718
          http://www.greaterfool.ca/about-garth-turner/

          Those are examples of people passionate about money. You?
          Nope, you're right. I'm not like that. Thanks for the links tho, very useful. I'm just saying I'm not as passionate about money as them.

          My whole take on money is this: have enough to afford me the lifestyle with women I want.


          Originally posted by Sase View Post
          Good. Join a boxing club. Or try kick-boxing, Tae-Kwan-Do or some other variation. Boxing can be pretty intense and specialized. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're running out of time (especially for your weight category) After 35 or so you'll be running an uphill fight against faster, stronger, more agile guys. No time to waste. Also make sure you're bulking cause you love it, not to pick up girls.
          I do pretty much everything to get better with girls. I wouldn't even fucking shower if I didn't think it would help me get leaid (indeed, I didn't shower for years. well, once every couple weeks)


          Originally posted by Sase View Post
          Excellent. Can I recommend the work of Geoff Lawton. I took a workshop with him once. Fabulous, inspiring man. But this is the wrong forum for that work. Get off your ass (and off this forum) and do it. Take a Permaculture workshop, go to Australia, etc.Bill Mollison would also have been a wonderful mentor but he died last year. Check out his work.




          And here is where I throw my hands in the air and give up. You are a master of this, twisting words, finding excuses, etc. I did not say selfish assholes don't get laid. I said the reason you are boring and unfuckable is your (very own brand of) selfishness and laziness. Let me add stubbornness to change.
          Yes, lots of assholes get laid but you, Sir, ain't Marlon Brando

          Do you not see what I mean??? God, you're infuriating!!!
          Lots of assholes get laid. Some that are scrawnier, more selfish than you, less motivated, less stylish, messier apartments, less funny, etc., etc., etc. But you ain't got what they have and you are refusing to change. My advice was geared to help you. Try to understand and not to find reasons my advice might sound like BS. With logic you can take apart anything.
          And this is where I don't get it. I mean, if what you're saying is true, then what's wrong with me? You say I need a passion but then I tell you only fucking girls would be a good passion and nothing else is fun to me. But then you say that doesn't count. Well, you can't have it both ways, either I have my REAL passion, or I have FAKE passions (to satisfy you and impress girls) which you say won't work lol!

          Hilarity.

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          • Originally posted by Impulse View Post
            So where the hell is your room?? Do you have a room?

            Do you have your own room in the house or are you sharing with someone?

            Why didnt you take the pics in your room instead of his?
            It's a one bedroom basement suite.

            My brother sleeps on the couch in the main area and I sleep in the bedroom.

            There is better lighting in the main area which is why I took the pictures there. Either way I highly doubt it matters because if my brother can get a gf in his situation there's no reason why I can't.

            I think this is all getting too complicated.

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            • Good thinking - get back to the bigger picture.

              you made a good investment - moved your style into a nicer place. The thing is "Styling up" is a continued effort and ongoing thing. Youve reached an ok-nice place. sweet (y) So stay with it as is a little and just tap into it once and awhile adding nice elements to take it up a notch. Slowly build a wardrope that you like and that works with women. relax w it. maybe even enjoy it. Enjoy creating a yourself that over time will get with women i mean props for your efforts here man despite that youre struggeling abit. you will get there.

              You could do many things to up your style more. i could easily advice you a few things to give you edge and class( nice watch, fit, styled sleeves, better choice of pants etc). but i dont think it should be your focus. Cause you cant really utilise this level of style yet in your pickup. Style "just" provides a light positive opening. Nothing more. It want make women chase you by itself unless you have other passive qualities like real or perceived status or alike.

              You're decent here. and definitely attractive enough. Focus on other sticking points. And good job to begin with (y)

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              oh btw - Im even thinking it could be a curiosity of yours you could use to talk to women about. A way to talk to them about something that will not get you laid but will give you a different kind of conversation with women. Its a subject women love and one where you can connect with them around something that matters to you. it is talking to them about what they find attractive styling wise in a man and subject like masculine expression etc.

              dunno consider it. just a suggestion. ive had many friends had girls help them with shopping. and its a nice little minidate maybe. I tend to use female friends here but i also know edgy ones in the industry. and i like it for a little saturday stroll w good company.
              Heard you not the type that you take home to mom

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              • Thanks glow, your post hits home for me.

                I do have a nice watch tho.

                I also just bought some nice black shirts to go with the leather jacket.

                I don't mind enlisting girls to help me. As a matter of fact, I apporoached the HOTTEST woman I've ever seen in my life (this INCLUDES any woman from tv, porn, movies, fashion, models, etc) I've literally NEVER seen a hotter woman in my life and I got her to help me find chips at the grocery store LOL! So yeah, it's definitely a good frame to come from. In fact, I've been thinking my frame is off and too supplicating as of late.

                I'm focusing too much on what the woman wants so she'll sleep with me, instead of what I want. But how do you get what you want if you just want the woman as your own personal sex toy and don't care about connecting and all that shit?

                I mean, brutally honest here (Sase is gonna have an aneurysm): Just like I enlisted the girl to help me find =chips, ideally I'd enlist a girl to help me get off. :/

                Is that wrong? Or can you make it work?

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                • i dont think anything is wrong. thats what you feel. To me thats fully welcome and thats where you are. And we can all understand that. needless to say girls need to go through a process and unless you hit a DTF woman while shopping theres a bit more to it. But the things im learning these days thanks to Cozy allow for some pretty mayhem things so it might be possible down the line for you.

                  I think though maybe feeling into that yourself, like your emotions and expectations around it. This core drive of "just wanting to fuck" s you say it. take some time for yourself and get some time to feel it alitttle. get to know this thing for yourself more.

                  feel the energy behind it - how is it ? is it healthy? is it frustrated? angry? several things maybe? positive? light? sad? could you somehow open up and give it some space to take form for you. I mean if this is your core thing exploring it must be a great thing.

                  i do sense a little needyness and frustration around it. But might just be my own projections.

                  and maybe you can find in yourself some depth in and around it - eg by learning to enjoy women in relation to the things fucking involves. whatever comes up i would welcome it. this is you. this is what you want inside. Full space for that man. Just build your own awareness and expand this drive to be a nice feeling vs a frustration if you know what i mean. i think a little room for yourself and less input from us in here will give you that best.

                  do this over some time - not just one time. take some walks while you feel into it. let it form itself. pay attention to it.

                  see how what i writes feel and if its true to you. Or use it as sparring

                  But give this time and make it yours. cause this is all you man. and its fully welcome from my end to take the form it does in you. i can only respect that you stay true to yourself.
                  Heard you not the type that you take home to mom

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                  • Thanks man. I know there's something there. I'ma take some time to think about it as you said. Ideally I'll do so as I approach women. In sales I do the same thing: go to a house, then think about it asd I go to the next one. Helps me get clear on things.

                    Yes, a bit of it is frustration, but frustration fuels my fire, just like in sales.

                    To this day I cannot do good in sales unless I'm in a very determined, nearly frustrated state. I don't think it's negative, and certainly no woman would decline a good fucking if she knew she'd be safe with me right? That's how I feel about it.

                    It's not light, it's heavy, but light feelings don't work for me often. Rather, most light feelings lead to bad outcomes. I don't know why but I'm done ignoring reality.

                    This has been a common, resurfacing theme for me as well. And goes in line with the passion part that I was trying to tell Sase.

                    I can think of nothing more fun and exciting than bending a girl over and doing my thing. It taps into the primal part of me that I love to feel.

                    It's one of the reasons I wanted to get into boxing, to coax more primal stuff out of me. I feel like I need to go full animal.

                    Anyhow thanks, your posts were a welcome surprise. I'm gonna explore this in the coming days. Maybe I'll start a journal on it too.

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                    • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
                      Thanks man. I know there's something there. I'ma take some time to think about it as you said. Ideally I'll do so as I approach women. In sales I do the same thing: go to a house, then think about it asd I go to the next one. Helps me get clear on things.

                      Yes, a bit of it is frustration, but frustration fuels my fire, just like in sales.

                      To this day I cannot do good in sales unless I'm in a very determined, nearly frustrated state. I don't think it's negative, and certainly no woman would decline a good fucking if she knew she'd be safe with me right? That's how I feel about it.

                      It's not light, it's heavy, but light feelings don't work for me often. Rather, most light feelings lead to bad outcomes. I don't know why but I'm done ignoring reality.

                      This has been a common, resurfacing theme for me as well. And goes in line with the passion part that I was trying to tell Sase.

                      I can think of nothing more fun and exciting than bending a girl over and doing my thing. It taps into the primal part of me that I love to feel.

                      It's one of the reasons I wanted to get into boxing, to coax more primal stuff out of me. I feel like I need to go full animal.

                      Anyhow thanks, your posts were a welcome surprise. I'm gonna explore this in the coming days. Maybe I'll start a journal on it too.
                      Great (y) - glad to sense you seem happy about it. Full respect for all your effort man (y)
                      Heard you not the type that you take home to mom

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                      • Originally posted by glow View Post
                        Great (y) - glad to sense you seem happy about it. Full respect for all your effort man (y)

                        Thank you.

                        What are the (y) for btw?

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                          • If your "good" style is incongruent then yes, it will hurt you.

                            You want to put together the best congruent version of yourself possible, that's the whole point.

                            If you've put together the best version of yourself, you'll get more attraction. If you put together a try-hard or incongruent "good" style, you'll get less attraction. There's a balance here between stepping out of your comfort zone to expand and grow, and remaining congruent to who you are, that you'll have to figure out as you develop the best version of yourself.

                            As for facial expression/attitude, the amused smirk is king. Not a smile, not a "i'm all hard" face, an amused smirk. Practice it in the mirror, and adopt the attitude that fuels it:

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                            • Good to see you back PE.

                              Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                              If your "good" style is incongruent then yes, it will hurt you.
                              Yes well, $3000 later I realize that but thanks!

                              Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                              You want to put together the best congruent version of yourself possible, that's the whole point.
                              Cool, so how does one do that?


                              Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                              If you've put together the best version of yourself, you'll get more attraction. If you put together a try-hard or incongruent "good" style, you'll get less attraction. There's a balance here between stepping out of your comfort zone to expand and grow, and remaining congruent to who you are, that you'll have to figure out as you develop the best version of yourself.
                              Yeah it's tough, got any tips? I'm always confused about what's congruent vs. being lazy, what's growing vs. what's being tryhard or trying to be something you're not. Fake it till you make it vs. growing into your best self, and other such cliches.


                              Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                              As for facial expression/attitude, the amused smirk is king. Not a smile, not a "i'm all hard" face, an amused smirk. Practice it in the mirror, and adopt the attitude that fuels it:

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                              I have tried this. In sales lately. No difference. In fact, people are now laughing at me. I'm hoping that's a good thing, but i doubt it.

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                              • Hey guys. I have a style question. I've been going out and approaching so this isn't just avoidance, it's a genuine curiosity:

                                So, I get that you should dress somewhat like how your target girls do, but my question is, is it better to dress congruently? i.e. dress the way you want? Or is it best to dress to the girls you want? I think I asked this before but never got a straight answer or at least not one I could understand.

                                Basically I want to get a, let's say gothic necklace but i don't want gothic chicks. So will that attract them and will it make things harder for me with the girls that are my type (i.e. NOT gothic girls)?

                                Thanks guys!

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