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    So, a while back I was on an online dating binge for a few weeks. I had been on OkCupid for a while and had not been able to see very good responses until I followed some of Blackdragon's advice. The very first day I tried to follow his advice, which was to throw in a take-away in the initial message, I actually got a reply from this real hot porn actress. I was floored! What got her hooked was when I said "I'm not sure if you're my kind of girl but...", she very much wanted to know why, to which I was at a loss, and we went back and forth in messaging but since I was stalling it didn't go anywhere.

    I then developed an initial message and even a routine of follow up messages that worked pretty well for me. I could set up a date, but I was scared to actually pull the trigger, since it's something I had never done before, so I tossed a couple of opportunities before finally meeting a girl for reals. This was a big accomplishment for me, because I had never gone on an actual date before, so big ups to BD, his teachings helped a lot.

    I put it all off for now, as I found the whole thing extremely exciting but also draining, and I'm at a stage right now where I'm overwhelmed and very exhausted (no joke at one point I was getting heart palpitations due to stress). So anyways, one of the girls I had messaged over a month ago replies with a simple "Call me...". Seeing that made my heart jump, she didn't even respond to anything I said (and she's pretty fuckin hot), surely she just wants fast sex (her profile indicates this too). Now being intimidated by the whole thing I haven't called in over a week (to my credit she did take over a month to respond), so even if it's too late and she doesn't respond, I want to know how you guys would suggest to handle this phone call. Phone game is definitely not my forte.

  • #2
    See, I'm not really very excited when a girl says "Call me", because I don't chase women! I give them every opportunity to take me up on my offer of coming back to somewhere near my place... and that is usually enough to hint at what I'm after. Me calling them is unneccesary if I've conveyed this properly. Rather, they should already KNOW by now what I'm offering and all they have to do is take me up on it.... so really the ball is in their court. I've done everything to encourage her to come back and get her rocks off.

    ...so I'm actually hesistant when a girl says "call me" because if I'm hearing it, it probably means that she didn't get the message of what I'm all about. I ALREADY MADE MY MOVE on her and me needing to call her is redundant. There is no need for me to "chase" her any further, but rather, the onus is on her to follow my lead.

    I tend to view women who want phone calls as attention-whores, because if she REALLY wanted me she could just come over at the time and place of my choosing and I wouldn't have to chase around after her.

    So I'm suspicious of this chick who wants you to call her.

    Instead, try say something like "I've already invited you to come over, and I'd really like to see you. I'm free late nights. Which night is best for you?".... and if I don't get a response to that, then I TELL HER to call me when she can make up her mind... here's my number. Then she gets temporarily NEXTed until she actually consents to a fuck at my place.

    Just don't end up in a situation when you end up trying to call her all the time and she mercifully refuses... because girls like that are just happy having an orbitter pay attention to her for 5 minutes on the phone. This sort of crap is an attention-whore's endgame. You really need to grab this bull by the horns and not accept a mere number swap.

    The way to do it is to have girls calling you up and scheduling themselves booty-calls.... and you don't even need to contact them. It's also better to have the attitude that this is how you are and what you are used to... to impress on her some underlying social proof (only a guy with lots of women can fuck a lot of woment his way) and that you aren't to be messed with.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Neo-Rio View Post

      I tend to view women who want phone calls as attention-whores, because if she REALLY wanted me she could just come over at the time and place of my choosing and I wouldn't have to chase around after her.

      Instead, try say something like "I've already invited you to come over, and I'd really like to see you. I'm free late nights. Which night is best for you?".... and if I don't get a response to that, then I TELL HER to call me when she can make up her mind... here's my number. Then she gets temporarily NEXTed until she actually consents to a fuck at my place.

      Just don't end up in a situation when you end up trying to call her all the time and she mercifully refuses...
      Yeah, I'm in no way going to chase her on the phone, her merely wanting attention was definitely going thru my mind. What just didn't make sense is if she really wanted to meet up, she would verbalize it in her reply, or at least respond to something I said so as to let me take the lead.

      Thing is, I didn't do what you were describing, I didn't frame my first message as an invitation to casual sex, maybe I should. It was more like, paraphrasing, you seem interesting, lets talk.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SeductiKon View Post
        So anyways, one of the girls I had messaged over a month ago replies with a simple "Call me..."
        It's a trap. She wants you to chase her to find a justification to control her own horniness.

        You either do like Neo-Rio says which is the best way to go and/or reframe her like this.. wait for a day or two and then "Ohh.. I just noticed your message.. having a nice vacation here in Copacabana. Have you been a good girl?"

        Which puts again her to chase you... or disappear.

        The main "problem" a woman has when she is being sarged is how to control her own emotions in the best possible way in order to game you better.

        It's all about the frame.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SeductiKon View Post
          Thing is, I didn't do what you were describing, I didn't frame my first message as an invitation to casual sex, maybe I should. It was more like, paraphrasing, you seem interesting, lets talk.
          Yeah, and that's the risk you run for not being direct enough.
          Invite over to your house to "play around" and "do something for fun" without explaining what is more suggestive.

          Then you have some small talk about what she does for fun, and suggest sex. Then it's pretty much the recent post on sex talk and getting day2s all the way to the goalposts. Does she like sex? Favourite position? When was the last time she had it?
          If she's still sitting through this humiliation, she's likely to be game on.

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          • #6
            Can't add any more to what Neo and Franco have said other than to agree that if a chick emails you on a dating site out of the blue with just the words "Call me.", it's bullshit.

            If a chick emails you out of the blue with several sentences about something you've both already talked about and asks you how your life has been, etc, that's different and I have laid women who have done that. (And, of course, they could just be attention-whoring too. It's up to you to find out.)
            How to have 3 hour meet-to-lays and nonmonogamous relationships with any type of woman:
            The Blackdragon Blog

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Neo-Rio View Post
              See, I'm not really very excited when a girl says "Call me", because I don't chase women! I give them every opportunity to take me up on my offer of coming back to somewhere near my place... and that is usually enough to hint at what I'm after. Me calling them is unneccesary if I've conveyed this properly. Rather, they should already KNOW by now what I'm offering and all they have to do is take me up on it.... so really the ball is in their court. I've done everything to encourage her to come back and get her rocks off.
              Let's not forget one thing though:
              In order for this to work, you really need to differentiate yourself from all the other guys. Many chicks have their attention receptors oversaturated with male attention at all times, especially if they're halfway good looking. If you simply talk to a chick for 5 minutes and tell her to call you, you often won't get very far. Some will even find if offensive. It's incredibly important to have a unique selling point that makes her say "Ok, this guy is really different, he can probably fuck me like no one else, I can't miss this opportunity". Unless you have that kind of USP (unique selling point), some active gaming may be required.

              It's up to everyone to figure out what it is exactly that can differentiate them from the mass. I've found that going to places such as J-land works wonderfully if my goal is to be able to get laid on nightly basis. Being incredibly direct and using sex talk can compensate for a lot of shortcomings, including lack of social proof. I've also found that in some places, nothing short of cash and status will help.

              I've also seen total chodes get laid simply by chasing a particular (equally inexperienced) chick for months until she relented, but this is a stupid game to play for any decent player... I've listed it here for the sake of completion.

              Just like in the stock market, find out what works for you, find your niche and then exploit it and ride the wave.

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              • #8
                Alright, so some number of weeks pass and I never called her, but now her message is a lil more serious this time, "when are u available, I'd love to go on a dinner date, blah blah I don't drive. " Now I'm really not excited about a "dinner date ", and especially about her not wanting to meet halfway, she most likely just wants a free dinner, right ? I had already forgotten about this , I'm surprised she still has kept up , I guess I should take Neos advice and not so subtly tell her how it goes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SeductiKon View Post
                  Alright, so some number of weeks pass and I never called her, but now her message is a lil more serious this time, "when are u available, I'd love to go on a dinner date, blah blah I don't drive. " Now I'm really not excited about a "dinner date ", and especially about her not wanting to meet halfway, she most likely just wants a free dinner, right ? I had already forgotten about this , I'm surprised she still has kept up , I guess I should take Neos advice and not so subtly tell her how it goes.
                  Yep.

                  Don't go to dinner. Don't make it sound like you are EVER going out of your way for any one particular woman. The attitude to has is "This is where I am. This is what I am doing. Join me. If you don't come, I won't care, and I'm going to be doing what I planned for myself anyway"

                  This attitude prevents her standing you up, getting an emotional high out of winding you up, wasting your time, bad logistics, and an expensive dinner.

                  So, just tell her that you are just hanging around at home relaxing on one particular evening of your choosing. If she wishes to join you for a bit of a drink and a laugh, you'll be around, but it's only that one night because you'll be busy any other day.
                  THEN DON'T BUDGE from that offer. If she's for real, she'll come over. If not, she'll come back with some bullshit excuse as to why she can't come over (e.g. "I'm busy that night so I can't come, maybe another time!"), or try and change your plans, because she really had a free dinner on her mind and NOT YOU on her mind.
                  If that's the case.... back on the NEXT pile for her.

                  If she wants to get laid, she'll take a day of work and put her kids in childcare to make it out.

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                  • #10
                    It's some kind of scam.

                    A chick on zoosk did this to me the other day. I sent my opener and asked her to answer a question and she said "txt me". To a Houston phone number (we are a LONG way from Houston).

                    She is probably either harvesting cell phone numbers for a telemarketer or else going to steer you to a website to "validate" who you really are to "be safe" but you will need to give your credit card blah blah blah.

                    Ignore shit like this.

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