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  • #16
    blackdragon describes his girlfriend (mltr or whatever he calls her) as a 37 year old “nine.” therefore i would take his advice regarding the subject with a grain of salt for several reasons. two of them being:

    1. he claims to be dating a nine himself
    2. any woman older than, ill be generous and say 29 isn’t possibly a nine.

    bd seems to have some really good content. he also seems to have some pretty radical ideas to most.

    regardless, there will be more quality girls and you’ll have a chance with them too. it may take you over a year to find another one who likes you, but it will happen. the longer you spend lovesick means the more time you’ll be missing out on other great chicks.

    im 37 and not as handsome as you, although i think i’m taller(?). anyway in your late thirties slaying 23-28 year olds is easy and they’re still pretty hot at all those ages. girls who are hot in their mid twenties are the type of girls you’d want to reproduce with also because there actually hot. so many young girls attractiveness is heavily correlated to their youth. a smaller percentage of the youngest girls (college age: 18-22) are going to like you. but considering you stay low body fat the competition is low. there aren’t a lot of hot old dudes but there are plenty of young chicks that like us.

    a big part of your value as a man is long term value. don’t forget that. what are you gonna marry this 18? year old. she won’t be 18 forever. in ten years you’ll be 38 and she’ll be 28. she’ll no longer be higher value than you. getting in a long term relationship is a huge sacrifice you’re making considering your valuediminishes at a microscopic rate compared to hers. let girls know that. say shit like “so in ten years i’m gonna be 38 and oh shit you’ll be 28 that’s too old for me.” then laugh. it’s supposed to be a joke that delivers a message. plant it in her head that your a long term asset and she is a short term asset. you need to break societies frame which reinforces her unrealistic self confidence. she is not the prize. you are.

    a lot of people around here are like all girls are the same. they’re all cheating sluts. maybe under the right circumstance that’s true. but there are certain girls who really are higher value and dating (marriage?) material. if you wanna be in a relationship give it a shot. but don’t sell yourself short. you’ll find another great girl.

    also, it sounds like you’ve overstimulated yourself sexually. boredom will probably prevent you from being monogamous for any considerable period until your t levels drop significantly. for now though more dating might not be a bad thing. the real influence material in pickup works best on girls you’re dating. it would be valuable experience to date some for a while, maybe not even monogamously. just get some practice so the next time a good girl comes along you can enjoy her as long as possible. this time was cut short.

    one last thing. i’m sure a big part of the reason she seems like she’d be a good girlfriend is you got to know each other and you were probably having way better sex with her than anyone else. this doesn’t last. you will get bored of her. at least this way you don’t have to worry about hurting her because she’s crazy in love with you and you’re bored of having sex with her.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by allmyfriendsaredead View Post
      blackdragon describes his girlfriend (mltr or whatever he calls her) as a 37 year old “nine.” therefore i would take his advice regarding the subject with a grain of salt for several reasons. two of them being:

      1. he claims to be dating a nine himself
      2. any woman older than, ill be generous and say 29 isn’t possibly a nine.

      bd seems to have some really good content. he also seems to have some pretty radical ideas to most.

      regardless, there will be more quality girls and you’ll have a chance with them too. it may take you over a year to find another one who likes you, but it will happen. the longer you spend lovesick means the more time you’ll be missing out on other great chicks.

      im 37 and not as handsome as you, although i think i’m taller(?). anyway in your late thirties slaying 23-28 year olds is easy and they’re still pretty hot at all those ages. girls who are hot in their mid twenties are the type of girls you’d want to reproduce with also because there actually hot. so many young girls attractiveness is heavily correlated to their youth. a smaller percentage of the youngest girls (college age: 18-22) are going to like you. but considering you stay low body fat the competition is low. there aren’t a lot of hot old dudes but there are plenty of young chicks that like us.

      a big part of your value as a man is long term value. don’t forget that. what are you gonna marry this 18? year old. she won’t be 18 forever. in ten years you’ll be 38 and she’ll be 28. she’ll no longer be higher value than you. getting in a long term relationship is a huge sacrifice you’re making considering your valuediminishes at a microscopic rate compared to hers. let girls know that. say shit like “so in ten years i’m gonna be 38 and oh shit you’ll be 28 that’s too old for me.” then laugh. it’s supposed to be a joke that delivers a message. plant it in her head that your a long term asset and she is a short term asset. you need to break societies frame which reinforces her unrealistic self confidence. she is not the prize. you are.

      a lot of people around here are like all girls are the same. they’re all cheating sluts. maybe under the right circumstance that’s true. but there are certain girls who really are higher value and dating (marriage?) material. if you wanna be in a relationship give it a shot. but don’t sell yourself short. you’ll find another great girl.

      also, it sounds like you’ve overstimulated yourself sexually. boredom will probably prevent you from being monogamous for any considerable period until your t levels drop significantly. for now though more dating might not be a bad thing. the real influence material in pickup works best on girls you’re dating. it would be valuable experience to date some for a while, maybe not even monogamously. just get some practice so the next time a good girl comes along you can enjoy her as long as possible. this time was cut short.

      one last thing. i’m sure a big part of the reason she seems like she’d be a good girlfriend is you got to know each other and you were probably having way better sex with her than anyone else. this doesn’t last. you will get bored of her. at least this way you don’t have to worry about hurting her because she’s crazy in love with you and you’re bored of having sex with her.
      she texted me today but just like asking if I got tested for STIs

      I've hooked up with a girl who's 36 that I consider to be a 9. She's Russian and a fitness trainer. I can show you a pic if you dm and you're really curious. I think blackdragon is pretty sound advice wise. There's a lot of subjectivity when it comes to looks. Eg) my friend is hurting over a girl I consider an 8.5 and then hooks up with a girl I consider a 9 but he finds the 8.5 more attractive.

      honestly 18-21 are more beautiful and actually easier because I think they're experimenting a lot and don't realize their value as much. 23-28 year old women have over inflated sense of value. also most guys as they get older really care what people think and it's more socially acceptable for a man in his 30s to be with a girl mid 20s. so that social shame spikes up AA for most guys that makes 18-21s off limits

      the way I rate 1-10 is for me personally what I like and then it's like this

      a 10 is one in 10 000 women
      a 9 is one in 1000 women
      an 8.5 is one in 500
      an 8 is one in 100.

      you gotta realize the vast majority of women are also fat, or too old or too young etc.

      you seem like you have some experience under your belt so probably have seen thousands in the field but don't let instagram, porn, tv etc. fool you. a lot of the best girls don't look the best on instagram and a lot of the best instagram girls aren't as goodlooking in person.

      i'm not sure if she loved me I think she was getting to that point but then cut it off. women take a lot more time i've read to get there. I think I probably loved her from the very beggining but being a guy i'm out of touch with my feelings and was also in insane abundance so it's really hard to just cut that off.

      she's also being silly because it's not like she's gunna want to start a family right at this very moment so why not just keep it open logically. but we all know girls are not like that. perhaps she also felt my neediness as I invested more and it made her lose attraction. Same time though most girls I dated always think that I don't like them very much so I guess because of high abundance I seem very blase. not sure.

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      • #18
        according to rollo tomassi young women are genetically dispositioned to go for looks. as they become older status matters more. since game is manipulating status to an extent, i find game to be status based at its core. i suggest college age girls are easiest for you, because your looks carry the most weight with them.

        my problem with the youngest girls is i don’t want to go where they are to find them at my age. there’s a bar in playa vista near lmu and otis that has college night on wednesday’s. i used to consider going there or santa monica college to game and always did feel too old.

        and yeah the subjective nature of beauty makes it very hard to determine an 8 from a 9. i honestly wouldn’t give a woman in her thirties higher than a 7. youth is just too important. the hottest woman in my opinion i’ve been with had magazines with her picture on the cover on her wall, like she needed everyone to know how hot she is. she was 23 and one of the easiest lays i’ve had. really beautiful girls can keep that level of beauty until about 26 with tremendous discipline in diet and exercise.

        one seven i was fucking a 25 year old mexican. you’d think rappers would be lining up to get her in their videos. she was hot but on ig she was able to accentuate her positives and look much better.

        in my opinion nonjewish white american girls are the only ones worth dating. i don’t trust russians or ukrainians. jesus christ they’re sexy though. same goes for brazilians. i dislike scandinavian women’s personalities. they’re very pretty and kind but we just don’t “click.” central and south american chicks are cool and fun and i would probably date one if she came from money. but still american white chicks in my opinion are far better than all other options.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by allmyfriendsaredead View Post
          according to rollo tomassi young women are genetically dispositioned to go for looks. as they become older status matters more. since game is manipulating status to an extent, i find game to be status based at its core. i suggest college age girls are easiest for you, because your looks carry the most weight with them.

          my problem with the youngest girls is i don’t want to go where they are to find them at my age. there’s a bar in playa vista near lmu and otis that has college night on wednesday’s. i used to consider going there or santa monica college to game and always did feel too old.

          and yeah the subjective nature of beauty makes it very hard to determine an 8 from a 9. i honestly wouldn’t give a woman in her thirties higher than a 7. youth is just too important. the hottest woman in my opinion i’ve been with had magazines with her picture on the cover on her wall, like she needed everyone to know how hot she is. she was 23 and one of the easiest lays i’ve had. really beautiful girls can keep that level of beauty until about 26 with tremendous discipline in diet and exercise.

          one seven i was fucking a 25 year old mexican. you’d think rappers would be lining up to get her in their videos. she was hot but on ig she was able to accentuate her positives and look much better.

          in my opinion nonjewish white american girls are the only ones worth dating. i don’t trust russians or ukrainians. jesus christ they’re sexy though. same goes for brazilians. i dislike scandinavian women’s personalities. they’re very pretty and kind but we just don’t “click.” central and south american chicks are cool and fun and i would probably date one if she came from money. but still american white chicks in my opinion are far better than all other options.
          yeah I don't trust russia/ukranians either. just don't marry though and just have alpha kids though was thinking unless I find a virtuous woman who's better. russian women some how manage to beat even the broke wests divorce rate says something. they're very logical women and calculating it's crazy.

          lol are you self aware that you're a very stingy rater? you gotta try to take out your own subjectivity when rating imo when discussing it on a forum. the 36 year old 9 russian woman i'm talking about gets my d as hard as many of the 18 year olds I bang and I'd take her over an 8 18 year old that's why I really consider her a solid 9.

          bro i'm starting to feel weird about the youngings too but if you stay in the game and you have momentum you live in your own world and it doesn't really matter. I've been slacking on pure cold approach because of sex club but I starting to get back into form with it because sex club is so niche and the girls still respond the same. I got an 18 year old from germany that's down to hook up on saturday, might flake but whatever we openly talked about sex right away and she's interested. I look a lot older too now I aged a lot past 2 years because of insomnia. still look good though. I also just have a wacky personality gaming for over 10 years and my hobbies keep it sharp

          honestly getting over the feeling of being weird / embarassed is probably the 2 biggest emotions that you need to get good at game. that's why a lot of guys never do get good because it's easy to act like a man/tough guy / cool etc. compared to looking like a fucking idiot. if you're actually hammering hard you'll look like an idiot. some people think i'm like a god who know me and other people probably think i'm the biggest loser compared to like what they saw in an interaction. end of the day though most people are just thinking of themselves not you so you can't really let peoples often thoughtless opinions stop you from getting what you want unless it's infringing on them, in which case since it directly involves them then they'll become a problem.

          right now I have a few fwb that are 18-19. one looks a bit like ariana grande and the other is a neuroscience major who's white domican with a fat ass who squats. I think the chlamydia thing is what really fucked me I had another 9 last year when I got it that I told about it after we hooked up once and she was feeling me hard and lost a chance to get her in rotation I think about it.

          was thinking of dialing down the quantity of sex maybe to just twice a week for maintence and just aiming for the higher qualities girls but I do also find that acting like a total sex addict raises my indifference threshold to such a high level that the blase attitude telegraphs total sexual alpha and I have really attractive girls chasing me for it. for instance the girl this thread is about was more into me at the very height of my sexual hedonism. where i was having orgys like twice a week and then after I started dialing it down and focusing more on other things and her is when the power shift happened (though she also started to pull away after I used words that made it seem like I wouldn't be open to progress things more).

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          • #20
            the thing about russian chicks. i was talking to this black guy and he only dates russian girls. i don’t get it. he wants to meet other girls but the russian girls (maybe ukrainian and armenian and shit like that) that like him are 8s and he’s not gonna find that with any other girls. i didn’t really understand because he’s not rich and i think those girls want rich guys.

            he tols me its not that you have to be rich. you just have to be rich enough that they don’t have to work. hot russian girls want to be taken care of. they don’t need to be rich. they just want a very old fashioned family structure. they are however highly hypergamous and quick to move up the social ladder.

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