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  • Anti-Slut Defense - What It Is & How To Handle It (Long And Detailed)

    For us men, in most cases we would have sex with a girl simply due to the fact that we are horny and that we find a girl attractive. However it turns out to be much more of a deal for women to just have sex with a random guy. You might often wonder why it is the case that for us men, we just want to have sex because we are aware of the fact the sex feels good but on the other side, women tend to reject sex offers and in worst cases acts overtly a-sexual toward you– like if they genuinely didn’t enjoy sex. Is it then the case that men loves sex and women doesn’t? We men have a drive toward sex that is our awareness that sex is good for us. Do women believe sex is a bad thing?

    Well, just to make it clear, women loves sex. They have to as our biology wants it to be that way – it would become a very tricky thing to reproduce if only men and not women did like sex. We can conclude that both men and women love sex. Any experienced seducer will agree that women loves sex as much as men. But then our question remains: ”why does women behave in a certain a-sexual way when we men try to proceed with a sex offer? It would make no sense for us to say that women loves sex as much as we do, while at the same time, they behave like they might not enjoy sex at the same time. The whole question is indeed a very confusing one.


    Anti-Slut Defense Explained

    The answer is that women do love sex, and you should always keep that in mind, however women, aside from men do not only need to feel horny or find their potential mate attractive to have sex with them but they also need to feel ”allowed” to proceed. Men are driven by desire, and so are women, but women also have a defence mechanism that do not allow them to accept sex invitations or act sexually toward men. This defence mechanism is called ”ASD” also known as “anti-slut defence”. Roughly, anti-slut defence is what we men label as ”all the reasons women have to not have sex with a man”. It is a defence mechanism that tries to bypass and work against her desires to have sex with a certain man. As we men, are driven by desires, we would in most cases just jump into the situation whenever we find it pleasurable. The reason is that we beside women do not get much consequences (nor do we really care about them) from having sex as women would – she could get social consequences, as we all know women gets labelled as sluts from having sex with multiple partners, but they also have a lot of consequences that have biological causes. The biological causes of ASD are enhanced by our social norms. Therefore we should consider two types of anti-slut defence – namely the ”social ASD” and the ”biological ASD”. I will in this post explain the type generated by social conditioning, as it is the strongest one in our ”civilized world” and the one that will cause you most trouble. However, I will follow up with an explanation of the biological one as well while cover some technique and ways to handle it in another post. So today we simply cover the most common and important type of ASD – the one generated from social conditioning.

    Consider an average looking man, a man that is neither good looking nor bad looking. He has average social skills and he is neither attractive nor unattractive – he is just a guy. Consider this man being locked up in a room with a girl. Both of them are well aware of the fact that nobody aside of them will ever know what has taken place in that room – so what ever happens in this room will be a secret to the outside world. The man starts touching the woman (physically escalating) is getting really turned on. What would happen? Wells she will most likely have sex with that man. Why is that so? Well the man’s touching indeed turned her on touching- as we known physical escalation is attractive, but she felt allowed proceeding. As the man is neither attractive nor unattractive, the escalation itself creates a certain desire within the woman to have sex with that man. Consider that nobody will ever find out about what is about to happen in that particular room, the woman doesn’t feel exposed to social consequences – sanctions. Therefore she would have less reasons to ”control herself” by holding her desires back - which means she feels more allowed to have sex with that guy. However if that scenario were taking place in a public place, where her friends might be around, the outcome would have been drastically different as she is then exposed to social reactions. In this case she might desire to have sex with that particular guy, but as her anti-slut defence would be up, she doesn’t feel allowed to have sex with him. To conclude, in order to have sex woman, a good rule of thumb is to make her desire having sex with you while making her feel allowed to do so.


    Isolation

    As we see, we have indirectly covered one of the most simple, yet most efficient ways of dealing with her ”social ASD” – which is isolation. As we saw in our example, the woman and the man were isolated from the social world. This way everything between you two becomes more of a secret and therefore a lot of her fears of being a victim of social consequences such as slut-shaming, will be removed, making her feel more allowed to proceed. Isolation will do wonder when ever you try to pick up women. Whenever you manage to isolate a woman away from social surrounding, everything will be way easier for you. Isolation can be done by either extracting a girl away from a venue with you, to take her back to your place or even simply sit in a more peaceful area without having her friends around – basically it is all about getting some privacy with her. The faster you manage to isolate her away from others, the easier it will be. Now, many women would not allow themselves to be isolated with a stranger right away, this is why you might need to make her and her friends enjoy your company and feel comfortable with your presence - this is done by creating rapport or increasing her level of attraction, often both should be considered – in order to create rapport, find conversation topics you all like, discuss them and get to know each other better – but keep in mind that you shouldn’t overdo it as it will kill too much of the sexual tension – hence the level of excitement – as we know ”desire” is also an important aspect.


    Persistence

    Another good technique against ASD, which is very simple, is persistence. When ever a women is resisting to your sexual escalation as a result of ASD you can simply persist. By persisting it means that you simply avoid the fact that she is resisting and keep doing what you are doing. This does not only convey that you are very confident but that you are taking the guilt for what is about to happen – as you are persisting no matter what she is saying or doing which you are the guilty one, you are the one that made it happen, not her – you are the cause of the trouble. This removes a lot of her guilt feeling and she will use it as an excuse to herself and even toward her friends that she is a “victim, hence innocent and hence not a “slut” as she got somewhat “forced” to commit into behaving sexually toward you. Now this technique is very simple and very efficient however it needs to be calibrated properly. A mis-calibration can make you lose her completely, or even worse, it can cause you legal problems. Always know when to stop persisting. Keep an eye on how she reacts, if her reaction becomes so negative you should stop right away. Also, make sure you don’t come off as needy as neediness is a game killer as it shows you lack of options making you perceived as less attractive. The main difference between persistence a neediness is that persistence is defined by the fact that you are just proceeding without really directly reacting to/taking into account her resistance while neediness is supplication where you show her you are really desperate – huge difference. A good rule of thumb in order to avoid being too needy (or getting into legal problems) is by persisting three times – whenever she resists you avoid it and keep going. If she does so more than three times within a short time span, just leave it there and move on.


    Social Value And ASD

    Social status and value does also play a role when it comes to ASD. Your social status will often play a role in defining whether the woman will have her shields up or not. Consider the scenario where a not groomed socially retarded man with apparently a bad attitude tries to approach a particular woman. He tries to escalate and gives her a sex invitation. Apparently there are no doubts that whenever she accepts the invitation and the following get exposed to the social world, it would give the girl way more social consequences than in the case of a well-groomed, socially intelligent man did the same thing. The reason being is that women cares a lot about their social status, for her being well-perceived is very important – we all know this from high school – and it is true for grown up women as well. In fact she cares about what her friends thinks of her, and it then follows that the men in her surrounding and even those who she is having sex with will have a certain impact on her social value. Therefore, whenever a man has a certain amount of social value, not only will it be more acceptable socially to have sex with that man, but her friends will also accept that man being the lover of their friend more than a man with lesser social value. Women do care about their social value, which means they do care about what other thinks of her – which also means that she cares a lot about how her friends think of her potential mate.

    However, social value can also have some negative consequences as it can backfire and even generate ASD. Previously, we explained it as something that is generated in virtue of something “external” to her, such as her being afraid of being judged by others – and that only. The other type of social ASD is generated not only from something external but is also generated by something internal to the women – in this case we are mostly talking about how she feels about herself, how she feels she is being perceiving by others, especially by us men. Keep in mind that the differences between the type that is caused by something internal and something are not huge and there is something causal between them both – they are causing each other. They are both grounded in her being afraid of being judged. However there are some differences – in the first case the cause is her friends and how she is afraid of being judged by other. The latter case ix rather about “how she feels about herself” – whether she feels attractive or not. In order to understand the last type of ASD we need to cover how women perceive male expectation toward female sexuality and the other way around.


    "Lover VS Provider" Theory And The M/W Complex

    Women are seeking two types of mates – call it different providers. Consider sex being a trade, what you are trading for the sex defines what kind of provider you are. The men women are seeking who are confident, independent, attractive having a lot of women chasing them are called “sex providers” – this is the man women finds sexually attractive – the man who women would like to have sex just for the sake of having sex. These men are often behaving sexually toward women, making themselves being perceived as sexual beings – sex providers. This type of men is usually called “alpha males” or “lovers” in community lingo. Important to point out, these men are trading sex for sex. However, these are a minority – whereas the majority of men are providers of anything else of women’s needs such as social value, material goods, emotional support and so on. These men will trade something else than sex in for having sex with a woman. As a matter of fact this type of providers tend to get sex from being in relationships with women.

    Now you might ask why is that a problem? Well whenever a woman gets “too attracted to you” in ways that are not purely sexual (-i.e. not perceiving you as lover/sex provider), women will tend to act in very pure and a-sexual way toward those men – she will start expressing purity. This is because she feels more attractive when ever she acts non-sexual toward men and feels unattractive when she is behaving too sexually or promiscuous. Women in fact believe we men do not like women who are sexually open – as they are very familiar with the complex many men have which is called “the Madonna/whore” complex. There are many versions of this complex but the most common one is described as men perceiving women as either plain whores, who are just sex tools without, who are useless when it comes to relationships, or “madonnas”, which men perceives as pure and good. These “madonnas” being known as the pure and correct women, are often perceived by men as better fitted for relationships. Women aware of the following will then act in way that communicates that she is a Madonna - in order words she will behave very a-sexually toward male who they perceive as potential relationship candidates. This is because they believe, and they are right in most of the case that men usually do prefer women that are “pure and correct” because men fantasize about women that are exclusive to them.

    The sad fact is that the idea of the pure Madonna remains just a plain fantasy. The cold fact is that no women are pure madonnas, neither are they whores for that instance – any women can be sweet and correct, but they are also “whores” as every women have a sexual biological drive – this is a universal truth about healthy women. Still many men believe some madonnas do exist – we have all heard “she is not like the rest”. Now the problem occurs whenever a man is too attractive to a woman in a way that is not just purely sexual, she starts perceiving that man as a boyfriend potential – nothing bad with that, but she will perceive him as a provider – meaning that the relationship would not be based on the sexual aspect. Therefore she is better off expressing her “Madonna side” by showing purity – acting a-sexual in order to win her man over, as that what believes works. This is why women will often make men wait for sex – “I am not that kind of girl” –, which is something we don’t want to happen. We don’t want women to act pure toward us, as we want sexual openness – women fucking us quickly and good. Many times we just want to simply fuck a girl, not enter a relationship – or if we do want to enter a relationship with that girl, we do not want to commit on a false premise – her being a pure Madonna. A quick word of advice is to never ever enter a relationship on her terms – as you don’t want to exchange sex for anything else than sex. Keep in mind that you can easily start relationships with women by being perceived as a sex provider – these relationships will be of better quality and last longer.


    Being Perceived As A Lover – Sexual Framing

    In order to avoid this purity frame is by treating her like a sexual being. By accepting the fact that women love sex, that she has some particular sexual desires or sex fantasies will affect your behaviour toward them. It is understandable that many men have a hard time believing women being sexual beings but any experienced seducers would agree with the following statement. When you will learn the skills and get laid regularly, you will also agree with the following. By treating her as a sexual being, you will make her feel way more comfortable about behaving sexually toward you. This will make her feel accepted for who she is and therefore the level of ASD would be much lower – resulting in you getting laid faster in a more genuine way. A lot of ASD will also be removed when she perceives you as a sexual man – a sex provider who she will trade sex for sex with. By being sexual toward her and letting her know that you basically only can provide her a good time with good sex will make her believe that sex is the only thing she can get from you and therefore she doesn’t feel the need to make herself perceived as a Madonna- the purity frame will then be bypassed. A good way to make you perceived as a sex-provider is using sex talk.

    Behaving a sexual being is similar to treating her as one. Similar children usually play together. Sex and seduction being a mutual form of communication, means that any of your behaviour is relative to who she is – who you perceive her to be. That means that whenever you are being sexual, you are showing her that you believe she is a sexual being as well. That is why being sexual works so well, because it makes her perceive you as a lover (a provider of sex) but it also makes her feel that you are understanding her true nature – a woman who enjoys sex. She would therefore not put her shield up and act pure, because she will feel that you will not fall for it, nor does she has any reasons to make it so. In order to make her perceive you as a sexual being – and to treat her like one, you simply have to behave like one. This means that escalating sexually, enjoying her feminine body, using sexual eye contact, talking about sex, flirting sexually… are good tools.


    Punish/Reward - Sexual Qualification

    By making her feel attractive for being/acting sexual will bypass a lot of her ASD – like complimenting her on her sexual behaviour. Whenever a woman is acting sexual toward you – she should be rewarded. A good way to reward her is by qualifying yourself to her by giving her a compliment like for example: “you are so sexy when you are being so sexually open”, but an ever better way to reward her is by escalating physically on her – reward good behaviours with physical escalation. However, if she is behaving a-sexual toward you, you can punish her by disqualifying her with the purpose of making her qualify herself back to you. Like whenever she behaves in an appropriate way, you disqualify yourself, so that in order for her to gain positive attention back from you, she is forced to qualify herself t – in other words, behave the way you would like her to behave. This can be done by either freezing her out a little, or telling her how you find that particular a-sexual behaviour of her unattractive – like for instance if you are acting sexually toward her and she reacts badly, you can tell her about how you find sexual closeness unattractive and that you prefer people who are more open minded. However keep in mind that this technique, yet so powerful is more risky to pull off as it requires her being somewhat attracted to you in order to make it work. She will not qualify back if she isn’t attracted to you – attraction is required to make her qualify. This whole concept is basically all about rewarding good behaviour” and “punishing bad behaviours” with the purpose of motivating her to behave in a “good way” – the way we would like her to behave, and in our case, we would like her to act sexual and not hold herself back.


    Sexual Re-Framing

    We have now covered many important points. A lot of techniques have been discussed and covered. However keep in mind that it is not required to use every techniques all the time – you don’t want to do more than necessary and in many cases doing so can work against you. What techniques you choose to use depends on which you prefer, the girls you are interacting with and the situation. Most of the techniques covered so far do indirectly remove some ASD but none of them will bypass it completely. The most powerful way to remove ASD is by not only understanding that sex with a condom isn’t a big deal, but convey it to women. Convey to her that you are low-key and that you don’t judge women for sex and make them know you are well aware of their situation (that they get labelled as sluts for behaving promiscuously) – showing understanding is indeed an attractive trait. As we have covered earlier, there are two very important reasons for why women are not “feeling allowed” to have sex with men (having ASD) – those are that she is afraid of how other people will judge her and how you would judge her. When she feels that you are a low-key man who will not tell anyone about what is going on between you, she will feel less threatened to be exposed and get social consequences from the “social world” – be a secret lover. The other huge reason is because she is afraid of how you will react or perceive her whenever she behaves too sexually toward you. As we have covered above, many men suffer from the Madonna/whore complex resulting in women trying to make men perceive them as “pure”. By letting her know that you find her attractive whenever she behaves sexually and that you are not judging her for her sexual desires you will make her ease up and allow herself to act sexually toward you.

    The way you convey the following is by simply talking about it to her - you tell her about how you perceive things, how you don’t judge women for being sexual, how well you understand their situations (use what you have learned earlier in this chapter as inspiration) and how you avoid her getting social consequences (by mentioning how low-key you are). The reason this works wonders is because you are showing sexual openness which will make her feel comfortable about behaving in a sexual manner toward you as you have communicated to her that you are not like every other men – you will not judge her and that you are low-key. This way, she doesn’t feel threatened by the fact that she can get labelled as a slut as you have just shown her that you are none-judgemental and neither will she fear that has what happened or what is about to happen between you two will ever be exposed to her “social world”. This technique is the most powerful technique against ASD but it requires some calibration and is hard to pull off properly for very fresh beginners.

    In order to be congruent with this technique you need to mean everything you say – that means that if you tell her you are low-key, then you should be so, if you say you are non-judgemental – then be non-judgemental. In fact, why shouldn’t you be low-key, it is your sex life, and there are no reasons for you to tell everybody about it, especially when you are now well aware of the consequences it can have for her. Also you should not be judgemental – we are in fact discussing how to have sex with women, judging them for participating in what we are working so hard for is paradoxal. Being judgemental is a turn off to women, and it is a very unattractive trait. Be non-judgemental, because there are no reasons for you to judge women for sexual behaviour as sex is completely natural and feels good – show some respect to our sexuality. Keep in mind that women are big talkers, so whenever you get a rumour of being non-judgemental and low-key, the words will be spread and you will have a much easier time getting laid.


    Conclusion

    We have now covered many ways to handle ASD. Most of these techniques works and have been field tested by myself and many other players around the globe. However it should be noted that these techniques, being good are not foolproof. There will be some cases where you will meet stuck up girl. Your time is precious and you should respect it, so I would like to suggest that in case you stumble across a hard-case, you simply let her go, leave her, erase her of your mind and proceed by meeting new women who might be more open for having casual sex with you. There are plenty of women out there who are looking out for a lover – as I have covered, those are a minority, meaning that there is a high price on your head. You now hold something exclusive and you shouldn’t sell it for a low price. You expect positive behaviour and a certain degree of sexual openness from women. Being a man of standard is attractive.




    Hopefully I will write about the biological cause of ASD and how it interacts with the socially based one pretty soon. But as for now, my time is rather short. The reason I posted this one today is because I wrote this one on the plain from Las Palmas to Oslo during christmas and never had time to finish it.

    Questions, comment?
    -Teevster
    Last edited by Teevster; 04-21-2013, 09:59 PM.
    Teevster (TVA_Oslo) AKA. Alek Rolstad

    Projects 2018:
    - Still Rocking
    - Flipping Lesbians (have sex with lesbians)
    - 10 year in PU anniversary!

  • #2
    ...or just disarm them with a three hour lecture.
    Didn't read it yet. I'm on a short break. I'll take a look tonight, I'm sure it's good and worth it as your other contris. Still it reminded me of a college prof that used to say: "Europeans like philosophy like Americans like Haagen-Dazs."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sase View Post
      ...or just disarm them with a three hour lecture.
      Are you referring to a "sex talk" lecture? I wrote a little bit about it in the last chapter of this guide. I didn't emphasize too much on this aspect because the guide was designed for men on every level - noobs, intermediate and maybe even experienced players can learn a thing or two from this post.

      Didn't read it yet. I'm on a short break. I'll take a look tonight, I'm sure it's good and worth it as your other contris.
      You should read it as I hold no punches back - lots of content

      Still it reminded me of a college prof that used to say: "Europeans like philosophy like Americans like Haagen-Dazs."
      Problably true! Fun fact is that most philosophers these days are american. But it is true that most europeans are philosophy freaks, as a matter of fact, in many countries, they teach it early on to kids in high school.

      But honestly, I prefer Ben & Jerry's.

      -Teevster
      Teevster (TVA_Oslo) AKA. Alek Rolstad

      Projects 2018:
      - Still Rocking
      - Flipping Lesbians (have sex with lesbians)
      - 10 year in PU anniversary!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Teevster View Post
        This can be done by either freezing her out a little, or telling her how you find that particular a-sexual behaviour of her unattractive – like for instance if you are acting sexually toward her and she reacts badly, you can tell her about how you find sexual openness unattractive.
        Just a typo but don't you mean "tell her about how you find sexual closeness unattractive" as per your first point?

        Excellent go-to guide though, and good actionable stuff. Cheers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by limitless View Post
          Just a typo but don't you mean "tell her about how you find sexual closeness unattractive" as per your first point?
          Fixed! thank you for noticing me!

          Excellent go-to guide though, and good actionable stuff. Cheers.
          Thank you!
          Glad you like it. It did indeed take me a while to write this!

          -Teevster
          Teevster (TVA_Oslo) AKA. Alek Rolstad

          Projects 2018:
          - Still Rocking
          - Flipping Lesbians (have sex with lesbians)
          - 10 year in PU anniversary!

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          • #6
            I have also noticed that many women withhold sex or do not show their sexual side to some guys because they are afraid of guys getting needy after sex. Or starting to chase them in an annoying way as orbiters. Most women probably have had this experience.

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            • #7
              Big Thumbs up on this.

              Again not sure if it belongs in HoF or Rookie required reading.

              The older the violin, the sweeter the music. Augustus McCrae

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Silvertree View Post
                Big Thumbs up on this.

                Again not sure if it belongs in HoF or Rookie required reading.

                Thank you for the cudos!

                That is a honorable nomination. I would like to point out that I believe this post to me for fitted for beginners. Also, i have a new part of my threesome guide coming out soon (against, sorry for the delay), so it would be stupid having too many posts from the same poster in hof.

                -Teevster
                Teevster (TVA_Oslo) AKA. Alek Rolstad

                Projects 2018:
                - Still Rocking
                - Flipping Lesbians (have sex with lesbians)
                - 10 year in PU anniversary!

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                • #9
                  Hey dude

                  I'm gonna be completely honest.

                  I used to think your style was a bit rough, as in too 'in your face' (the whole sexual prizing, sex talk, sex this sex that) and that I preferred more subtle, non-verbal ways of seducing, like the ones employed by Sleazy or Ewan McGregor in the movie Young Adam.

                  But I'm starting to realize your system is bullet-proof. Sure, you bid subtlety farewell but you get it done. You can pull essentially whenever you want to. Even guys like Bullseye, who I consider a suave motherfucker, are unable to get as much consistency as you.

                  There's a lot of valuable information (some of it already common knowledge) succinctly contained here. Like the scientist with his scalpel, when you say women love sex it is easy to believe you. And that is a gratifying thought.

                  Thank you for taking the time to put your ideas to paper in this essay.
                  In pussy we trust

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                  • #10
                    Hi Biscmarck!

                    Originally posted by Bismarck View Post
                    Hey dude
                    I'm gonna be completely honest.

                    I used to think your style was a bit rough, as in too 'in your face' (the whole sexual prizing, sex talk, sex this sex that) and that I preferred more subtle, non-verbal ways of seducing, like the ones employed by Sleazy or Ewan McGregor in the movie Young Adam.
                    Sleazy and I have pretty similare styles. We both following the intention of communicating to a woman that we are good lovers available for casual sex. Sleazy is not very talkative and therefore chose the non-verbal way. Also it should be noted that the venues he was frequenting didn't allow much for talking.

                    However, there are some differences. As you point out, going non-verbal is more subtle and will generate less ASD (if done properly). However, it will give you less possibilities in case you face ASD. With verbal game you have much more control over things. In case you face ASD, you can with more ease remove it and even bypass it. This is huge "pro" with verbal sexual game.

                    On the other hand, I sense you have a huge misunderstanding about how I do things. First of all you are wrong about my way of doing verbal game is direct. As a matter of fact, I never state any sexual interest toward her - this way I avoid her shields going up. In the end, all I do is talk about sex neutraly, like lecturing (without explecitly communicating in a "lecturing" way) her in sex. This doesn't generate much resistance because women are used to talk about sex. They love it. Beside fashion, discussing relationship or sex related topics is one of their favoritte topics. I don't talk about how I would like to fuck her, I am just stating my opinion in what I like about sex while also sharing what I know about it. We are simply discussing a topic. This way it indirectly (and not directly) communicates to her what type of man I am - a good lover who is experience when it comes to sex. What i am doing is indirect game actually.

                    But hey, if you prefer non-verbal game, then go for it. I have experimented a lot with it and I agree, it is a lot of fun. What ever floats your boat. However, I feel that i have to correct common misunderstandings.

                    But I'm starting to realize your system is bullet-proof. Sure, you bid subtlety farewell but you get it done. You can pull essentially whenever you want to. Even guys like Bullseye, who I consider a suave motherfucker, are unable to get as much consistency as you.
                    This is probably because I play it safe and I very rarely face ASD or any type of resistance. Yes it can happen that I meet a chick who simply wasn't attracted, but that is a far different concern than facing ASD generated resistance. I also very rarely face harsh rejections.

                    If I went more direct with my intentions, things would have been different. What makes me consistent is the fact that I make her truly want me before I make a move (this doesn't require much time usually). This way I increase my success rate drastically. I don't make a move on girls who aren't receptive.

                    Also, I am very good at sensing approach invitations and I rarely approach girl who aren't receptive. This is something Sleazy and I have in common, even thought sleazy is better than me at this. If you want to get quick pulls and more consistency in your approaches, you should developpe an eye for receptive girls (if you haven't done so already) and develope a few pre-approach "compliance testing" techniques - where you test her compliance before approaching. This way you avoid rejections and when ever you approach, you can with more ease escalate heavily right away. This is how sleazy managed to almost caveman girls right away (it should be noted that he had really tight escalation skills and good body language as well)

                    If you are interested here are some "pre-approac compliance tests":
                    - Stand next to her (or dance or what ever) without facing her directly/not explicitly giving her attention and see if she is giving you any signs of interest (looking at you, smiling to you... dancing with you...)
                    - (this one is from Sleazy): Poke her and she how she reacts. If she plays along, approach her, if not, next her (and maybe try again later?)
                    - (another one from sleazy): accidently touch her with the palm of your hand and see how she reacts (sleazy even walked trought clubs with his palms open near his hips and "accidently" touched every girl on his way).
                    - if she has any accesories such as necklace you can play with it and see how she reacts (also from sleazy)
                    - (from me). High five a chick. If she high fives back with a smile, she is open to get approached. From there you should go all sexual as high fiving is a little bit "dancing monkey alike".

                    When you approach after getting a positive feedback, try to do it in a stylish yet sexual and bold way:
                    - Drag her into to you
                    - Spin her around and drag her into you
                    - (my favoritte) she high fives you, you grab her hand during the high five and pull her into you.

                    Just some quick tips for you. Hope you liked it.

                    There's a lot of valuable information (some of it already common knowledge) succinctly contained here. Like the scientist with his scalpel, when you say women love sex it is easy to believe you. And that is a gratifying thought.

                    Thank you for taking the time to put your ideas to paper in this essay.
                    Thanks man

                    -Teevster
                    Teevster (TVA_Oslo) AKA. Alek Rolstad

                    Projects 2018:
                    - Still Rocking
                    - Flipping Lesbians (have sex with lesbians)
                    - 10 year in PU anniversary!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Teevster View Post
                      If you are interested here are some "pre-approac compliance tests":
                      - Stand next to her (or dance or what ever) without facing her directly/not explicitly giving her attention and see if she is giving you any signs of interest (looking at you, smiling to you... dancing with you...)
                      - (this one is from Sleazy): Poke her and she how she reacts. If she plays along, approach her, if not, next her (and maybe try again later?)
                      - (another one from sleazy): accidently touch her with the palm of your hand and see how she reacts (sleazy even walked trought clubs with his palms open near his hips and "accidently" touched every girl on his way).
                      - if she has any accesories such as necklace you can play with it and see how she reacts (also from sleazy)
                      - (from me). High five a chick. If she high fives back with a smile, she is open to get approached. From there you should go all sexual as high fiving is a little bit "dancing monkey alike".
                      Thanks A LOT for typing this! The more i read from Sleazy, the more i am impressed i have to say. Does he have a pdf archive? (sry for off-topic)
                      "There is a fundamental difference between men and women. To ignore it means to suffer, to experience it means to love. To understand it means seduction."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by animal View Post
                        The more i read from Sleazy, the more i am impressed i have to say. Does he have a pdf archive?
                        IIRC Sleazy deleted all his posts from mASF when he decided to go commercial

                        but he has a couple of free e-books on his site, which probably cover these ideas one way or another

                        -M
                        "When in doubt... fuck." (Scent of a Woman)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Manneken-Pis View Post
                          IIRC Sleazy deleted all his posts from mASF when he decided to go commercial

                          but he has a couple of free e-books on his site, which probably cover these ideas one way or another

                          -M
                          thanks
                          "There is a fundamental difference between men and women. To ignore it means to suffer, to experience it means to love. To understand it means seduction."

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