Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The Serial Monogamy Lifestyle - Riding the Pair-Bond Rush

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Glad that this resonated with some, and thanks for the kind words from the MASF guys.

    Originally posted by ithidesacocoon View Post
    Pureevil, did you find that your LTRs would try to come back to you after some time when you were following the system you describe? Or were all the break ups automatically understood as permanent?
    Girls will come back around from any relationship setup. There's no such thing as permanence, the only thing constant is change.

    Originally posted by 0--- View Post
    - You sound a bit too deterministic about all of these relationships ending. I know you're just consciously riding out NRE and getting out when it's over, I just wouldn't close my mind to the possibility of continuing a relationship beyond NRE if the person and the relationship are worth it. You don't have to end it. You also don't have to continue it. You are always free to choose.
    For sure. I don't see it happening for me. I've felt the temporary pair-bond rush play out pretty much as its described scientifically, and over time it indeed fades. Humans have the biological drive to procreate with multiple women, with the smaller pair-bond drive encouraging them to stay with one exceptional women for a few years. If I were ever to shoot for the impossible "permanence" I'd set myself up with an OLTR.

    Originally posted by kant View Post
    Pair bonding is a form of psychosis. I've experienced what OP is posting about when I was AFC. I was MUCH LESS happy overall than I am now. Yeah the highs are higher and the lows are lower.

    To each his own I guess
    Its a high yes, and can turn into lows with bad game. Some people enjoy highs in general, and some are turned off by them.

    Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
    But PureEvil, didnt you have an account here already? (I thought I saw a post from you here long ago, but maybe it was someone else?)

    No sir, wasn't me.

    Originally posted by Dude909 View Post
    Interesting and certainly original material. However the whole thing rests on the postulate that 'monogamous pair-bonding' somehow chemically improves your happiness more than for example an OLTR. I'd like to see proof of that, as I can't find it in my own experience.
    It doesn't "improve" happiness more than OLTR or any other relationship. It simply offers a different sort of rush than the others, longer developing and lasting. As a man interested in the fullest life experience, I've found value in all the different relationship setups. Since the value of the others is exceptionally well-discussed, my OP points out the massive hole that is overlooked by so many in the "community." The pair-bond effect does exist, it does indeed cause an extended release of reward chemicals dopamine and oxytocin in the brain. These are scientific facts that a man can use to bring a certain pleasure and experience into his life for however long he may want.

    Each relationship setup comes with its own list of pros and cons. A true alpha male will choose whatever relationship type he desires based on the pros he prefers to have in his life and the cons he wishes to avoid in his life at that time. Relationship preferences will change over time for many, and the alpha male interested in the fullest life experience will try them all at one point or another.

    So its just an option I've tried that I personally found value in, that has scientific backing. I'm sharing that value with whoever else may be interested.

    I'm in my fourth mono in a row right now. After this one ends I plan on going to a MLTR setup again for a while. There is no "best," there are simply options with pros and cons.

    Originally posted by Dude909 View Post
    If you must absolutely insist on not seeing other girls because you think it increases your feelings for that particular one (aka you are forcing oneitis on yourself), then just don't tell her you are going mono, pretend to be poly, pause fucking other girls if that's what floats your boat, and then resume fucking other girls a few months later when your dick calls.
    No. This defeats the whole purpose. Either go mono all-in with the girl, where you're both simultaneously going through it, or don't go there at all and keep to the various poly setups.

    Comment


    • #17
      Originally posted by Dude909 View Post
      However the whole thing rests on the postulate that 'monogamous pair-bonding' somehow chemically improves your happiness more than for example an OLTR.
      Not really. The pleasure derived from different relationships could be different for different guys and especially at different times in each guy's life. Why all the obsession with measuring chemicals to figure out whether you are really happy or not? How about just doing it the old fashioned way and recognizing when something makes you feel good and when something doesn't make you feel good?

      Overcomplicating things like this really doesn't pay any dividends.
      "In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them." --John Von Neumann

      "Courage is found in unlikely places." -- J. R. R. Tolkien

      Comment


      • #18
        Originally posted by Dude909 View Post
        Increases your feelings for that particular one (aka you are forcing oneitis on yourself), then just don't tell her you are going mono, pretend to be poly, pause fucking other girls if that's what floats your boat.
        I tried that. It was one of the longest 24 hours of my life but I survived it.

        Welcome back Pureevil.

        Perhaps you could post another thread describing how this approach changes your early game. For example when a woman tries to push monogamy very early I can now just give them the , I'm not that kind of guy idea. I wonder how you handle it. The breakups seem like they could be dicy too. . .. .

        Comment


        • #19
          Originally posted by Uncle Walker View Post
          I tried that. It was one of the longest 24 hours of my life but I survived it.

          Welcome back Pureevil.

          Perhaps you could post another thread describing how this approach changes your early game. For example when a woman tries to push monogamy very early I can now just give them the , I'm not that kind of guy idea. I wonder how you handle it. The breakups seem like they could be dicy too. . .. .
          It doesn't change a thing about my game. I don't sell myself as a mono guy at any point, if I decide to go mono with a girl it's because she's the exception. My current mono was sucking my dick within 2 hours of meeting, and I had banged another girl the day before. Game as usual. Fuck, then connect (nice that you remembered this one Bismarck).

          The one and only difference is that when a girl proves herself to be exceptional by my standards over time, I'll go mono with her. For example my current girl is a smart 21 year old model in LA with a contact list of celebrities. I get shit tested with screen shots of famous rappers trying to text-game her, but she's all about me right now. This will change eventually, which I'm fine with. She'll probably cheat soon. But there's no reason to let these facts prevent me from experiencing the pleasurable bond with her for several months. I'll be perfectly fine when it ends and if she "cheats", and meanwhile she's bringing me more pleasure than a rotation would.

          I've field tested serial mono four times (I'm in the middle of my fourth field test I suppose), and found a unique sort of value in going mono, as described in the first post (playing to the unique biological reward found in the pair-bond). I'm very much "serial" as in many, not mono for life.

          Breakups can indeed be dicey. There are ways to minimize the fallout, but withdrawal from a pair bond is intense. That's the price you pay, no free lunch.

          Comment


          • #20
            Yup, that old post inspired this one. Good to see you posting here again!
            www.musicianlifestyle.com - Quit your job. Do cool shit instead!

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by Irish Asshole View Post
              Yup, that old post inspired this one. Good to see you posting here again!
              Good to see I made a positive impact. "Fuck, then connect" is indeed a very quick game-changer for those stuck in the reverse.

              Z's reply in that thread is a trip. Its true, you let your true sexual intentions shine through clearly from the start and fuck a girl like a dirty little slut, and she'll go on about "how nice you treat me." Its still funny to me all these years later. Most guys are so shady and unclear with their sexual intentions that banging out a girl you met two hours ago makes you "nice."

              Comment


              • #22
                Guys don't get married for the sex, they get married for the affection. -60yearsofchallenge
                In pussy we trust

                Comment


                • #23
                  Originally posted by Irish Asshole View Post
                  Yup, that old post inspired this one. Good to see you posting here again!
                  Nice! Rather than sex-urgency, I feel there is a need to never 'hang back'. (NOTE: there is a huge difference between PULLING back and HANGING back..) Basically, you have to 'engage girls sexually' until you fuck them. Any 'breaks' deduct from probability of lay.
                  My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Great thread PureEvil.

                    Do you plan on having kids one day?
                    The Qlue, simple perspectives on life.

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Qlue View Post
                      Great thread PureEvil.

                      Do you plan on having kids one day?
                      Kids for sure. Gotta spread these genes! Most likely with an OLTR setup, and most likely with a pre-nup'd marriage. I don't care about marriage one way or the other, so if its a strong point for the mother of my kids who's agreed to an OLTR and prenup, I'm fine with it.

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                        Kids for sure. Gotta spread these genes! Most likely with an OLTR setup, and most likely with a pre-nup'd marriage. I don't care about marriage one way or the other, so if its a strong point for the mother of my kids who's agreed to an OLTR and prenup, I'm fine with it.
                        Agreed

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Purevil could you go more into how you maintain dominance/hand/alpha/whatever in the relationship that keeps her interest high in you? Is it a matter of having boundaries/being a challenge or something else u do?

                          I'm having the problem where the girl's attraction begins to wane after a certain amount of time (6 month +).

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bullseye View Post
                            Purevil could you go more into how you maintain dominance/hand/alpha/whatever in the relationship that keeps her interest high in you? Is it a matter of having boundaries/being a challenge or something else u do?

                            I'm having the problem where the girl's attraction begins to wane after a certain amount of time (6 month +).
                            I'll have that post in the next few weeks. I wrote a little about it here: http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.p...l=1#post136826

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Glad you posted this pureevil

                              This is exactly the game I play. It balances the LTR rush without the lifetime commitment bs.
                              THREAD Illuminatus' male episodic memory versus female emotional memory is a great reminder about the premise that women love their feelings and if you associate yourself with these feelings you're in, at least in that particular moment.

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                I haven't forgotten about the followup posts I've promised in this thread and the alpha/beta relationship thread.

                                I have two posts coming, "Non-next relationship management and behavioral modification tactics," and "the pros and cons of the various relationship setups." These should patch up the holes the OP left open.

                                I've been very creatively inspired with work, plus the holidays, so I just have a sketch of the ideas now. . another couple weeks.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X