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  • #16
    Originally posted by POB View Post
    - The best look is between C and D
    (as Logic said, there's a lot of body types in between)

    - The best fat range is between 9-12%. Yes, forget about shit like 6% (competition shape)
    Trying to look too shredded is usually a bad idea, specially for short guys and ectos.
    You cut untill you get to 9-10%, then if you need more muscle you slowly bulk till you get to 15% Bf tops, then you cut again.
    When you reach a good BW, just stay in maintenance mode and keep that 9-12%.

    Mirror always trips BF and body weight.
    Best way to measure BF is explained in this video:
    as i said i have gotten better results in clubs higher body fat than the low body fat ranges... I am talking natural... When i get low body fat i start looking like i don't lift, this is me low body fat in this video,(which is the point hey lover is making about the look)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emWQAPNztd4


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    • #17
      Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

      as i said i have gotten better results in clubs higher body fat than the low body fat ranges... I am talking natural... When i get low body fat i start looking like i don't lift, this is me low body fat in this video,(which is the point hey lover is making about the look)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emWQAPNztd4
      Yes, always natural...a little BF is ok if you can also keep muscle mass.

      What are your stats today? (height, weight, BF)
      personal blog: https://realpob.wordpress.com/

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      • #18
        Originally posted by POB View Post

        Yes, always natural...a little BF is ok if you can also keep muscle mass.

        What are your stats today? (height, weight, BF)
        6"1" 205 about 15% body fat, flat stomach somewhat visible right lightning... I am going down to 10% but i start getting complains, and i look like me on the video (good look shirtless but no like i lift clothes on), sucked in face (women complain about the sucked in face too)


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        • #19
          Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

          I am going down to 10% but i start getting complains, and i look like me on the video (good look shirtless but no like i lift clothes on), sucked in face (women complain about the sucked in face too)
          Sleazy advices guys to stay in the 12-15% range for best results for picking up women for exactly this reason.

          "the bottom line is that you shouldn’t optimize your workout routines based on how you look naked, but how you look like with your clothes on. If you look good when you’re dressed, you’re buff enough for picking up girls"

          http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.ph...king-up-girls/

          http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.ph...sub-10-levels/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

            6"1" 205 about 15% body fat, flat stomach somewhat visible right lightning... I am going down to 10% but i start getting complains, and i look like me on the video (good look shirtless but no like i lift clothes on), sucked in face (women complain about the sucked in face too)
            I'm also 61", but I am 215 with more or less 10%BF (started a slow bulk this week).
            Have you ever tried an hormone reset followed by a clean bulk?

            By the way you look on your videos, I think you could pull it off beautifully!
            personal blog: https://realpob.wordpress.com/

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            • #21
              update.- So now i am about 13%, lost couple of more pounds.....

              So i pick leaner vs buff, though results pick up wise a bit of a decline.... The energy level is up, mood better, more confidence, more cockiness, and more feeling like i am all that, feeling younger....

              So if i have the choice i will pick lower body fat again due to the above benefits (but yeah for seduction wise higher body fat, though lets see what happens in the summer)


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