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  • #16
    Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
    Well i had no idea it was going to get this bad! jesus!
    Duh. Very few can pull of effective polarization and those that do still end up with half of everyone hating them. Most will just alienate themselves. My whole concern in that thread was a nation of Trump-wannabe's ineffectively trying to be polarizing because "it works." Imagine this shit on a national scale. Hopefully he won't have that much influence. .

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
      Well i had no idea it was going to get this bad! jesus!
      lmao

      Now you see why telling people some stuff at times is a bad idea. They only hear half of it :P

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      • #18
        Look Impulse, what skills said was a girl may make-out with you but that doesn't necessarily mean she will fuck you. You can go to a club not make out with a girl and fuck her or you can go to a club make out with 10 girls and not get laid.

        A girl I've slept with once straight up told me she will make out with everybody but hardly fuck anybody.

        Outer game wise I'd say it depends on the situation. Sometimes you want to make out with a girl at the club sometimes it's better not to. Depends on the situation and enviroment but your initial points are legit imo.

        However saying that, depending on the level you are at I would say make out is better then nothing. If especially if you want to build confidence pump your own state and stuff like that go for it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Impulse View Post
          Skills was initially saying MAKEOUTS ARE USELESS!!! Which is BS
          This is where some degree of contextual effort on your end would be helpful. You're taking this as a stone cold face value statement, of course there's a more detailed explanation. Why not just ask for it?

          When it comes to getting laid, makeouts are pretty useless for the most part. I don't ever kiss a lot of girls I fuck at all, I've had ongoing MLTRs (by that I mean weekend hedonistic indulgence buddies with wet vaginas) for a year without ever kissing them.

          Most guys in the field experience a complete and total non-correlation between makeouts and sex. That's why they're largely useless for a pro out to get his sex.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Impulse View Post
            I did man, I chased the guy for months! But still no concrete answer

            Are you talking nightclub game here? Im talking specifically nightclub game

            To be completely disband makeouts as being useful is BS imo...what about a guy who wants to get more confident and has opportunities to make out with chicks? Surely he should make out then

            What about if he's dancing with chicks on the dancefloor and can make out? Surely he should go for it then

            What if he's getting like 10 AIs a night (not uncommon with a few things in check) and he wants to have a bit of fun playing with a few girls before going home with one? Surely he should make out then

            What if he wants to do quick lays? Making out is fine then

            What if the chick comes upto you and wants to make out, should a guy make out then?

            Its not just because makeouts dont lead to a concrete lay that a guy should avoid it for some strange reason. Thats total BS man. There's so many cases where a makeout is useful, fun and can still lead to sex. This mindset that its useless is BS
            now you are troll baiting.. pe and chad explained it to you... this is another topic that has been discuss to nausea anyways...
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Impulse View Post
              Cosy, this is totally the wrong mindset if you ask me....
              Decency is the wrong mindset but starting your op with (bullshit exposed) and then ranting like you know it all when in fact you are struggling is the right mindset?

              Did I get that right?
              That is your position?

              That makes you a lazy asshole


              If being at work makes you a lazy asshole, don't post from work, do your job, then when you have time to fully focus and not be a lazy piece of shit maybe post when its relevant, not cuz you need to rant or have an outburst of stupidity for the day

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Impulse View Post
                ^The point of me saying that is you made it far too black and white

                Theres plenty of situations were making out is not only fine, but desirable

                So, it is actually BS to say making out of itself is useless...the contexts you were applying it in werent extensive enough
                Impulse since this is sedfast i assumed when i say phone numbers are useless and make outs are useless... In a post were all the dudes had 5- 10 years of experience minimum, i thought they get it! and i did not have to explained it... come on!
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                • #23
                  No derail meant, Impulse. What I meant to say is: All your points in the OP are valid. (And irrelevant to seduction.) Yes, makeouts will raise value, jealousy, hornieness, testosterone levels, confidence, they are fun, etc, etc. (And they can easily cost you the lay.) It's still high=school stuff, though. At 31 women will expect something else from you. But if that's what you're into, then go kiss them, Bud! I'm rooting for you.
                  Everything makes sense in context. My experience aligns with Skills'. I rarely make out unless the bed is in sight. At the same time I can tell you that making out while dancing with a woman is the most erotic form of foreplay you can do in public. (Hidden context: A woman that is in love with you and which you are sleeping with regularly.)
                  None of this will help you, though. What is your goal? Based on your writings my advice to you still stands: get a girlfriend. It's the fastest way you'll learn about women, and the most sex you'll have in the shortest amount of time.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Impulse View Post
                    Ok fair enough dude..but I did quiz you a few times about this and never got any sort of concrete reply..but yeh, if its been put to bed thats fine

                    Cosy: Ok I see what your saying..most of the regulars on here are experienced enough to kinda look over this stuff..even to me its not even that important..

                    so yeh I guess ive been posting too much lately and got too sucked in....better to take some time off
                    So I'm not a regular and I'm inexperienced?

                    See what I mean about this rude nonsense?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Impulse View Post
                      got too sucked in....better to take some time off
                      You're in the field man. . your field work sounds like its at least somewhat matching your posting, and honestly its the guys going through the shit fighting things out that drive a lot of good discussion.

                      The word for you is conscientious: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/conscientious - "characterized by extreme care and effort." "Do the right thing." (not morally or out of social duty, but do the right thing that needs to be done to accomplish whatever your goal is, so you don't waste your own and everyone else's time on a misfire because you weren't careful or aware.)

                      Just be a little more self-aware and conscientous man when it comes to starting new threads, put a little more care into them, be a little less "impulsive." (your name is fitting.) Like, this whole sidetrack wouldn't have happened if you had set up the OP just a little differently, and your goal of a clean on-topic discussion would have more likely been possible.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                        You're in the field man. . your field work sounds like its at least somewhat matching your posting, and honestly its the guys going through the shit fighting things out that drive a lot of good discussion.

                        The word for you is conscientious: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/conscientious - "characterized by extreme care and effort." "Do the right thing." (not morally or out of social duty, but do the right thing that needs to be done to accomplish whatever your goal is, so you don't waste your own and everyone else's time on a misfire because you weren't careful or aware.)

                        Just be a little more self-aware and conscientous man when it comes to starting new threads, put a little more care into them, be a little less "impulsive." (your name is fitting.) Like, this whole sidetrack wouldn't have happened if you had set up the OP just a little differently, and your goal of a clean on-topic discussion would have more likely been possible.
                        Yeah, totally agree
                        I mean, I'm over it now,
                        But you don't wanna turn screws on people like Impulse did in the OP
                        Its mega bad form

                        All it takes is conscientiousness, not submission or quitting seduction, or fleeing in panic insulting everyone you can
                        Like, that shit just isn't even necessary in the first place, its all in impulses head

                        Reason I stop this stuff short, is cuz if I let it go its like a fucking weed, it gets entrenched everywhere in impulses psyche, and it totally shuts him down into that whole in field moaning zone
                        And that shit ain't pleasant and leads nowhere, so it is pragmatic on my part to just stop that short of it becoming a major issue
                        Its good impulse is thinking
                        But, its BETTER not to frame those thoughts in us vs them stuff cuz its unproductive to invoke comparissons where he is losing.



                        I mean, theoretically impulses idea here is, choose a losing situation (where he feels beat) and try to combat his way to more confidence
                        But, its just short sighted because, you actually cannot gain more skill than someone by perception shifts, so all you win is an illusion and then that illusion makes you complacent, and you lose in the long term

                        So its just tempremental...
                        Kinda like a pyhrric victory or what not
                        Even if you win you lose


                        The better strategy is to build upon a competitive framework, like "I will rediscover bits and pieces of meaning"
                        Like yes its been covered but it can always do us good to cover it AGAIN
                        But you can't start that challenge with insults and "bullshit exposed" clickbait hack nonsense

                        I mean all it does it make me wanna then shred his biz acumen, cuz I sense DEEP seeded weakness due to the whole attempt to implicate superiority through its "grasp" on pragmatism

                        I'd argue correctly that pragmatism in seduction is STRONGER and more well developed than in entrepreneurial circles, because we more routinely face life and death risk
                        So our pragmatism has to be utterly sharp and smooth, where in entreprenuerial circles you can just side step most accountaility with group think and herd mentalities that you simply cant do as a seducer. A seducer is in the tick of it, the entrepreneur is a secondary observer.

                        So I mean, for me, I honestly think sed far outweighs biz in terms of mental preparation (more complex, higher stakes)
                        So I find the implication of expertise mute and pontificating, as it really is useless to act smug, cuz the field will humble you
                        So its all PREMATURE
                        And just...

                        I dunno... flailing?


                        I'd rather see impulse keep a steady beat, grind it out, work through the gristle
                        So I see posts like this as the squeaky wheel asking for grease and constantly attempting to reframe until he gets it
                        When in reality he has to respect others space and help himself by grinding it out
                        Some understandings take grinding through your mental bullshit until you've experienced enough attrition that you are ready to step up a level
                        It isn't anyone elses responsibility
                        It is impulses

                        In this post he just utterly fails to face it cuz hes too hyper??
                        I dunno its weird

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                        • #27
                          -OP tries to discredit makeouts, which is good. But rather than meaning nothing, they are actually BAD..
                          -OP likes to go for the makeout early on, in public. Lo and behold, he reports makeouts mean nothing. Well guess what:
                          -For info: Early makeouts is probably the biggest and most common rookie mistake.
                          -I paraphrase: Early makeouts (especially in public) PREVENT LAYS FROM HAPPENING.

                          (And before the ultra-goodlooking guys start to object; I KNOW, you guys get away with breaking a lot of rules that normal guys simply cant get away with. So stay off my case.)
                          My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

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                          • #28
                            at college ijjjji's early make-out rule doesn't apply as far as I know. just depends on the person and context
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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                            • #29
                              Skills as a pro to kinda knock making out and the fun that comes with that just didn't seem right

                              pro masturbator, i ain't a pro, just lol!
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
                                -OP tries to discredit makeouts, which is good. But rather than meaning nothing, they are actually BAD..
                                -OP likes to go for the makeout early on, in public. Lo and behold, he reports makeouts mean nothing. Well guess what:
                                -For info: Early makeouts is probably the biggest and most common rookie mistake.
                                -I paraphrase: Early makeouts (especially in public) PREVENT LAYS FROM HAPPENING.

                                (And before the ultra-goodlooking guys start to object; I KNOW, you guys get away with breaking a lot of rules that normal guys simply cant get away with. So stay off my case.)
                                I could not find the post were me and you had a huge fight about make outs... anyways at the end you had a good conclusion....

                                My take it comes down to interactions.... is not the same an instant make out for fun/validation... vs a make out with a solid interaction were the girl is really into you and ready to go...

                                I have also lost women by not making out, they assume "he is not into me" or "he is gay" lolol...


                                I like cosy explanation the best when it comes to this...
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