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  • #16
    Reply to OP:

    I do this fairly irregularly. Woman like the boldness of just "joining" them, seem to be fairly accommodating, but men seem to get quite upset and defensive as if their "territory" is being threatened. I do try to befriend the guys, but once I start flirting with the women they make it pretty clear they want me to leave.

    Edit: Actually I remember one guy actually say "dude, your starting to annoy the fuck out of me." I'm not easily intimidated, but to keep things cool I did politely thank them for the chat and moved on. The girls were bitching at the guy for being so rude, but no woman is worth getting physical over.

    Edit2: I've done this in daygame, not in a club which has a way different vibe.

    The male/male tension could easily get out of hand. How do you handle such things? Am I overstaying my welcome? When I have plopped down at a table, it's rarely more than 10-15 minutes before I move on.



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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tech View Post
      The male/male tension could easily get out of hand.
      Sounds like you are elbowing into 'closed' sitting groups. I could never do that. If I want to join such table, I flirt with one of the girls there until she begs me to sit down.
      Loves: Shy Girl-coding into Starry-eyed Extroversion, spamming Open-loops and Mini-cold-reads and lots of light kino.
      Hates: Putting pressure on others. Things that feel 'brainy'.

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      • #18
        Sounds like you are elbowing into 'closed' sitting groups.
        Oh definitely. I don't wait for the invitation. I'll hover a bit near an open chair, say the normal hi, how's it going. And if they respond favorably I plop down in the chair and make some introductions.



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        • #19
          Yea had a polarized event this weekend that clarified the difference between what I and others do. Facing wrong way or not looking at girls is certainly key to the whole thing. Which means it doesnt work everywhere. (I suspect. Gonna have to test it on some more 'closed' tables and see.)
          Loves: Shy Girl-coding into Starry-eyed Extroversion, spamming Open-loops and Mini-cold-reads and lots of light kino.
          Hates: Putting pressure on others. Things that feel 'brainy'.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
            Yea had a polarized event this weekend that clarified the difference between what I and others do. Facing wrong way or not looking at girls is certainly key to the whole thing. Which means it doesnt work everywhere. (I suspect. Gonna have to test it on some more 'closed' tables and see.)
            You just have to be confident enough that they BUY that its genuine and not some really weird thing.
            A few weeks ago a girl said "this is a private party area" to me, truth was I just responded with "ah, ok, I see your point, I can move if it bothers you guys". The fact is that this stuff happens incidentally all the time and is very similar to the "accidental bump", where it stirs an excuse for conversation after the initial accident.

            I've done this more brazenly too, where I just walk up, and sit down (think a girl thats huffing and puffing then planting herself down), girls then think of it like "oooh this is interesting, I wonder what he's thinking about". I've done it more comfortably as well, where there are seats everywhere but I sit next to her (just because I was in a good mood and I knew she wasn't scary, or she picked a good spot).

            There are so many genuine ways it can happen. Its just "natural" to meet people that way, because it suggests there is no agenda, since the person isn't giving you the creeps by doing it.

            Its like body language, don't force it. (did you know you can just walk up to a girl, stand infront of her, drop your shoulders, start slowly shaking your head, and say "I just don't know what to do with you", then stop and say "hmmm, can't decide" smile and sit down beside her, its the same thing but just a bit more intense)
            So in a way its a bit like fractionation or an open loop (which again relates to a vacuum).

            Fun stuff x)
            But basically you just have to be believable. I gave you a few examples just to kind of show you what I mean by that.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by thecostofsuccess View Post
              So in a way its a bit like fractionation or an open loop (which again relates to a vacuum).
              Exact! The way I see it, people sitting together can be an enclosed circle (say something to a girl, move on, and check later), or a circle that has open or weak sections (sit down and 'bubble' outside circle).
              Loves: Shy Girl-coding into Starry-eyed Extroversion, spamming Open-loops and Mini-cold-reads and lots of light kino.
              Hates: Putting pressure on others. Things that feel 'brainy'.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
                Exact! The way I see it, people sitting together can be an enclosed circle (say something to a girl, move on, and check later), or a circle that has open or weak sections (sit down and 'bubble' outside circle).
                And it works on the weaker bubbles. Niiice. Very tidy.
                You can also do this walking down the street, and you can accidentally talk into their bubble.

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                • #23
                  Just a small post about reaping the benefits of the pivot effect:

                  Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
                  Welcome to my world, BD

                  Pre 10pm, means you will have to find a bar where girls gather early in evening to have a few drinks before hitting clubs. Finding this is the hardest part. When you do, simply follow:

                  1) Dress slightly nicer than rest of people there.
                  2) Flirt and have a good time with the pivot girl. Make her laugh.
                  3) Pull nearby girls into the conversation.

                  (When doing '2' above, you will notice the 'pivot effect' where other girls start drifting towards the two of you, and all you need to do then is smile to them and maybe say 'hi' and maybe compliment what they are wearing. When your pivot has to leave, you got tons of options with these new girls. Taking # from all the girls under pretext 'this is fun we should do this again' is a must at this point, regardless of what comes next! You could then leave with pivot, or stick with the new girls, or combine following pivot out and venue changing the girls. "Pivot has to go home but I wanted to check place x real quick. You and you and you should come too!")

                  9pm is actually the ideal time for doing this! Later on, things get too loud and too many AFCs around, so girls put theirs shields up real high.

                  Side note, whenever you talk to ANY girl, keep in mind that this 'pivot effect' is happening!! (hint: Talk to lots of girls. Regardless if actual interest or not, they are contributing to you getting laid, just by talking to you.)

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                  For daytime, you need to seek venues that have similar properties to the bar mentioned above. Im thinking crowded coffee-shops. (Im less of an expert for this, but very similar to the above.)
                  Loves: Shy Girl-coding into Starry-eyed Extroversion, spamming Open-loops and Mini-cold-reads and lots of light kino.
                  Hates: Putting pressure on others. Things that feel 'brainy'.

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                  • #24
                    I was making a new thread "Seated 'dance' moves", but remembered my new google trick so decided to put it here! Here goes:
                    I have seen all these moves done while sitting down. It can be very good for the mood, because others will do their wild or dorky seated dance moves too (or just copy you):
                    -Both hands as if checking wristwatch, then rotating wheel motion. It some 'folk' dance move?
                    -I see buddy doing double point left.. right.. center.. repeat..
                    -Index finger rhythm shake. One or both, pointing up. Common.
                    -Two thumbs up 'walking' move. Kinda dorky, hence funny.
                    -Various 70's disco moves with hands. A bit AFC.
                    -I have unexplainable pointing dance I stole from friend. (fast pointing on everyone as in 'you you you you you you and you')
                    -Boxing guard style dance.
                    -Bruce lee / kung fu style dance. (girls love join this one)

                    You know some moves?

                    Edit - omgomg, saw some really funny 80s 'air grab' dancing on YT. I will try it for sure! Looool!
                    Loves: Shy Girl-coding into Starry-eyed Extroversion, spamming Open-loops and Mini-cold-reads and lots of light kino.
                    Hates: Putting pressure on others. Things that feel 'brainy'.

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