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  • Daily reminder trump is president, being polirizing and asshole works....

    disclaimer.- I wanted Hillary to win, seriously...Not advocating people to be like me or trump, but this is what works for ME...You use your own critical thinking and field testing...

    Oh no not again, tired of being right... I said that trump was going to be president, unfortunately don't know were they bury my posts with all the retarded changes they made in sedfast... He was one of my original biz mentors, and my personality is kind of identical to trump

    example>- the way he dominate others, bully them, talk over them with an authoritative voice, trolls them, how he doesn't listen/react when they try to do the same, how he handles situations, how he pushes their buttons like "low energy" and shit. He is just great at it. This is how i am in real life, those of you that know me, know that...ALMOST FORGOT HE IS FROM SCREENING CREW... IN THIS CASE HE SCREEN FOR WHITIES, MA NIGGAS (NO RACIST)

    he destroys oponents, rossy o donald, bush, all of the primary candidates etc...

    Remember the posters that cross me, ups! sorry 5 of them are gone, ups my bad!: Dosh, assman, piccasso, shb, many many more (at least 3 more but i do not want to public humiliate cause some of them are back with the new rules) You mad???

    Is not popular(well it is if done right you will be super popular) but it works in life,biz, in seduction etc... here is the explanation again:

    In before pe and cosy start yelling at me, i already know what you 2 are going to say...

    Anyways here (post i made way before trump was in the primaries):

    Lately i have been thinking a lot about polarity and seduction since is not a topic that is covered much, but i believe is super important. I have hooked up with many women by being polarizing; But anyways, I want to talk about the topic and how powerful it is in seduction, to keep relationships, work and life in general.
    What is polarization:


    Polarity: the state of having two opposite or contradictory tendencies, opinions, or aspects.

    "the polarity between male and female"


    For me polarization is displaying your raw self even if is not popular, is different and you are taking many risks including losing your prospects, your job, your friendships, your girl,looking bad etc.... Polarization will help you convert many women, lose a lot of women( not really), and make neutral women make a decision about you. However, just like vulnerability is not to be used as a TECHNIQUE. It has to be part of who you are.


    Some popular polarizing figures like them or not are: Donald Trump, Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Really, Whoopi Golbert, Bill Maher, Russell Brand.
    Some polarizing figures in the Community: Me, Jws, slyone, Mark Manson, Stelar, Good Looking Loser,Aaron Sleazy,Steve Jabba, Blackdragon, Mode One, NWP, Teevester, Gun,$matteo, most rsd instructors specially Julian, jeffy and Tyler Durden.


    The advantages of polarization are:


    1.- You will come across blunt/raw different which in most cases is attractive. Specially with women and bosses that are used to yes men, ass kissers, betas, providers.


    2.- You will polarize women, especially the ones in the maybe, yellow, neutral to make a decision fast about you and specially when it comes to sex.


    3.- You will become really popular really fast.


    4.- You come across as passionate, exciting, interesting, different.


    5.- A lot of women will get turn on by you being polarizing (most bad boy naturals are very polarizing, comes across as you do not give a fuck of what other people think of you).


    6.- Some people will appreciate your honesty and you will gain their respect fast, specially bosses, clients and women which in turn will make them TRUST YOU (bingo see where i am getting).


    I may think of some more as they come to my head, so may edit later.


    Disadvantages:


    1.- It could cost you friendships, relationships, jobs, getting banned and people will not like you right of the gate. But the twist is after a while they may convert, and they usually do, and they will befriend you after they hated you. However, this disadvantage usually happens with mainly with people that are not CALIBRATED ENOUGH.


    2.- You may come across as highly emotional, dramatic, troll in some cases. Again this can be avoided with calibration, common sense and good people skills.


    3.- Some people may over do it and/or use as a technique/persona.


    4.- If you do not have enough experience you may come across as a fucking ASSHOLE, in a bad way, and is not attractive. So there is a learning calibration curve.


    5.- Some people may avoid getting into discussions with you or get shady with you cause they do not want to deal with your polarizing persona.


    6.- Some people may mistakenly label polarization as needy, dramatic, highly sensitive.


    Key points:


    You have to have a strong belief in your principles, ideas, philosophy etc...


    You can not be afraid to lose your job, girl, friendship, popularity, getting banned etc... Remember in seduction for example "To get a girl you must be willing to lose a girl".


    You have to be calibrated to people feelings, is ok to be wrong and apologize, it is ok to be sensitive if you think you are crossing the line. Ex. If in facebook they are talking about a beautiful wedding that a friend of you had. You are not gonna jump in and say marriage does not work blah blah, you are an asshole and an idiot, in this situation. Being polarizing is not a license to be an imbecile.


    polarization and vulnerability go hand in hand, so if you get a girl a friend a client etc... They will be the real deal, cause they are establishing a relationship with the TRUE YOU, which is why is so powerful and attractive in itself.


    Encourage women and friends to be blunt, vulnerable and polarizing with you.


    Some samples of polarization in the forum:


    Blackdragon owns a polygamy forum, most of the guys here are probably his followers, most guys here are poly. He is talking about marriage does not work for many reasons. Here comes Money Matteo, risking looking bad in a forum full of poly people, risking maybe getting banned, risking looking beta or soft. And say, "dude marriage works for me, here is why". Now he is not saying that as a "technique". That is really his life he is married and he believes in mono. Get me? that is a sample of polarization and vulnerability.(true story)


    Some samples of polarization in my relationship:


    my gilfriend: "i want to get married, i want kids, i want you to stop clubbing, i want you to be a baptist."


    me: i respect that and i love you and want to be with you, but i don't want kids, i don't want to get married, and i am going clubbing whenever i feel like. That was not the real convo but it was the sub-communication, I don't have time to got through the whole history but lets say that at the end, she changed her mind about EVERYTHING, and i made her become polarizing herself, which has helped her tremendously in her life. (true story)
    Some sample of polarization at work:


    Everybody kissing boss ass in company xyz. I had a strong feeling of things that were wrong in the company, and how to improve the sells. Everybody and their mother knew that, but they were to scare of going to the boss and talk to him about it, cause they were yes people afraid to lose the job. In a meeting i raise my hand and brought up everything that was in everybody's mind, and what needed to be done. They implemented my strategies, and i made him and everybody more money. After, he offer me to be the manager of the sells team. (true story).


    Some examples in polarization dating This is a sample reflecting numerous situations i have been in, these are re-enactments:


    Hot Girl: how about we get to know each other, lets go out to dinner.


    me: Sorry i don't do dinners, is what everybody else does, you order food, she orders a salad and say"i am watching my weight" takes 2 bites and I am stuck with the bill, for me is boring. How about we do something fun like renting a movie, or dancing, I hate dinners.


    ^ that is not a technique is how i actually feel...


    Hot Girl: I am not that type of girl i like to get to know somebody blah blah.


    me: there are many ways to get to know somebody it does not have to be dinner, actually people when they do dinner or traditional dating are fake versions of themselves and on their best behavior, you do not know what you got till 6 months to a year in the relationship. How about we rent a movie and i give you a massage and we get to know each other, i will answer whatever you want, you will see you are gonna have a blast vs. a boring ass dinner.
    or this one is common too:


    Hot Girl: I don't have sex, you don't even know me.


    me: I do, your name is Sussan, you have 2 kids, mike and steve, they are 14 and 8. You love tennis, you are a nurse, working 2 shifts, you moved 3 months ago here from maine, your ex is an asshole, you are leo, and you have a crush on skills.


    Hot Girl: wowow, i am impress you remember all that, you pay attention.


    me: yes cause i like you and you like me too, But you are scare that if you fuck me too fast i am just gonna use you and believe you are not gf material. However, what you do not understand is that sex is not big deal to me, for me to have to have sex with someone i have to like them as who they are, i can have sex with anybody i want when i want. I don't want to get to know you like you and 3 months from now have sex with you and then hate the sex and dump your ass. Having sex with you now on in 2 years do not make a difference and i will not judge you blah blah(teevester/td secret societyspeech), tired of typing . Done! i fuck them right away.


    ^ this is a very common scenarios of women I have been with sexually.


    Polarization in friendships: many examples but you guys already get the point.


    I want you to field test being polarizing, IT WORKS! but try for yourselves...


    Let me close with a live sample of a polarizing dude that is very good with women:


  • #2
    Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

    In before pe and cosy start yelling at me, i already know what you 2 are going to say...
    What do you expect me to say?

    At a raw level, polarization is great. All polarization isn't equal though, as usual its about the CONTENT of the polarization, not polarization itself.

    To use the Trump example, polarizing angry fearful white people against blacks, latinos, and muslims, using falsehoods and lies, so that they fearfully come out to vote in record numbers never before seen to the point of not needing to win ANY other demographic's majority vote, is negative and irresponsible polarization in the context of a presidential election. NO ELECTION IN HISTORY has been even close to this negative and devisive, thanks to Trump's choice of polarization tactics.

    He didn't polarize the majority of the US to come together against a common enemy (like Bush in 2001, though he had a bit of external help there.) 2001 is an example of POSITIVE and unifying polarization. Trump's brand of polarization is a dumb or inner-game-issue man's use of polarization, Trump is very good at operating successfully at a lowest common denominator level, by various forms of exploitation (his business is built on expliotation and profit off of failure, as was his campaign). He won, but at what cost to every demographic in the US but whites? Winning isn't everything, HOW YOU WIN also matters.

    So. . . polarization in general. . great stuff! Polarizing in some holier-than-thou or "I'm better than you" or "pit them against a boogie man" way is weak and ultimately poor for the greater good. It did no good for BD to go around shitting on everyone else with different relationship preferences than him, that's inner-game-issue polarization. Like Money Mateo, I took on the fight against that bullshit. This is the error that bothers me when it comes to polarizing types, when the polarization is fed by overcompensation of obvious inner game issues.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pureevil View Post
      What do you expect me to say?

      At a raw level, polarization is great. All polarization isn't equal though, as usual its about the CONTENT of the polarization, not polarization itself.

      To use the Trump example, polarizing angry fearful white people against blacks, latinos, and muslims, using falsehoods and lies, so that they fearfully come out to vote in record numbers never before seen to the point of not needing to win ANY other demographic's majority vote, is negative and irresponsible polarization in the context of a presidential election. NO ELECTION IN HISTORY has been even close to this negative and decisive, thanks to Trump's choice of polarization tactics.

      He didn't polarize the majority of the US to come together against a common enemy (like Bush in 2001, though he had a bit of external help there.) 2001 is an example of POSITIVE and unifying polarization. Trump's brand of polarization is a dumb or inner-game-issue man's use of polarization, Trump is very good at operating successfully at a lowest common denominator level, by various forms of exploitation (his business is built on expliotation and profit off of failure, as was his campaign). He won, but at what cost to every demographic in the US but whites? Winning isn't everything, HOW YOU WIN also matters.

      So. . . polarization in general. . great stuff! Polarizing in some holier-than-thou or "I'm better than you" or "pit them against a boogie man" way is weak and ultimately poor for the greater good. It did no good for BD to go around shitting on everyone else with different relationship preferences than him, that's inner-game-issue polarization. Like Money Mateo, I took on the fight against that bullshit. This is the error that bothers me when it comes to polarizing types, when the polarization is fed by overcompensation of obvious inner game issues.

      How did i know you were going to say this... lol! It did get him to be President... And Bd is making thousands of dollar as well with his brand of polarization and retarded rationalizations...

      My point is they still win and is working for them...It just works (though again i agree with you on a microlevel)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

        Let me close with a live sample of a polarizing dude that is very good with women:

        What PE said... but really comparing Russell Brand to Donald Trump is a bit funny. They're not on the same level.

        Being a polarizing asshole may work well in the states. But in other places with hotter women on average, or in certain circles. You'll be screened out quickly. You can be polarizing without being an asshole... everybody polarizes to some extent. Being polarizing is inevitable for a PUA, being an asshole is a choice.

        Speaking of Brand, he has very strong calibration, put together with high social intelligence and strong inner game. Dude's been sober for a decade plus, and just uses meditation for state control. Together with highly finessed verbal and non-verbal outer game stacks. Donald Trump still has several years of practice to reach that level. Simply saying "he's polarizing" is too simplified. Breaking down what's going on the that video, would be far better.

        And since this a seduction forum, with different members at different levels. It elevates the discussion.

        It's not a shot at you (or your) skills. And I'm probably being nit-picky...

        EDIT: Slight tone adjustment.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bacchus View Post
          What PE said... but really comparing Russell Brand to Donald Trump is an insult to Brand.

          Being a polarizing asshole may work well in the states. But in other places with hotter women on average, you'll be determined low class and low status. And screened out quickly. Brand has very strong calibration, put together with high social intelligence and strong inner game.

          Dude's been sober for a decade plus, and just uses meditation for state control. Russell has at least 75% of influence/seduction tactics... dialed to autopilot. Highly finessed... verbal and non-verbal outer game stacks. Donald Trump still has several years of practice to reach that level.

          Everybody knows Russell has a lay count in the 1000s but they all love him. Trump? Not so much. I'm still happy the Donald won.... but let's not get too excited here


          I guess you need to revisit the women Donald Trump has dated and who he is dating now... Women that probably Russel could not touch...

          There is no insult same concept of polirizing and asholness one more extreme than the other... 2 people will never be identical...


          P.s. Read the whole post

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
            How did i know you were going to say this... lol! It did get him to be President... And Bd is making thousands of dollar as well with his brand of polarization and retarded rationalizations...

            My point is they still win and is working for them...It just works (though again i agree with you on a microlevel)
            "It wins" and "it works" is brute level reasoning for doing something though. Nuking the middle east would mean "we win" because "it works" to eliminate all your enemies in one fell swoop while saying "fuck it" to the fallout (billions of dead innocents), but is a brute and simpleton move to make.

            But I do agree, it does work to be a divisive prick. I just idealistically wish for an elevation of discourse, across the board. Trump and BD type polarizaton sinks things to lower denominators. This brand of polarization plays to idiocy and puts a two-sided team-sport mentality onto ideas that are significantly more complex. But people love that shit, so it does work. I just see men who employ lowest-common-denominator polarization tactics as fools, even if they win sometimes. Russell Brand is a much better polarizing example. All polarization is not equal.

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            • #7
              Skills, with all due respect, you ain't that polarizing. We all love you lol

              I am sure you have gotten into fights with some dudes here (who hasn't?) but you ain't famous for it, no.

              Btw, i made a prediction that trump is gonna win, already back when bernie was in the fray. The guys who oppose trump here are not saying that his strategy doesn't work, but that that does not mean it is in YOUR self interest to vote for him. That you become alpha by being the alpha's bitch. Thats one of the primary right wing narratives that the suckers buy into, if you will.

              Also- I recently started having a stronger presence on facebook than before for work teasons, and its amazing though how the liberals are acting as though this is the end of the world. I think Trump getting elected is a good way to ground out some of the right wing energy that was forming as a reaction to all the SJWs etc, before it became a much more powerful force. Its never a good idea to swing too much in either the left or right direction.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hangman View Post
                The guys who oppose trump here are not saying that his strategy doesn't work, but that that does not mean it is in YOUR self interest to vote for him.
                Or to emulate his behavior because "it works" and "it wins." THAT is what has people crying IMO, the inevitable emulations of behavior that will come because he won.

                Basically the OP saying "trump won, so super high divisiveness at the expense of others totally works, other guys should employ it too" is EXACTLY why people are crying. We don't need a bunch of even dumber dudes emulating Trump's rhetoric in mass (and possibly taking action on it) attempting to "win through polarization," that only sinks things further

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                  Or to emulate his behavior because "it works" and "it wins." THAT is what has people crying IMO, the inevitable emulations of behavior that will come because he won.

                  Basically the OP saying "trump won, so super high divisiveness at the expense of others totally works, other guys should employ it too" is EXACTLY why people are crying. We don't need a bunch of even dumber dudes emulating Trump's rhetoric in mass (and possibly taking action on it) attempting to "win through polarization," that only sinks things further
                  You are assuming that caring about others is a "good thing". Thats not a view necessarily shared by trump supporters, which is why i was emphasizing that even from a self interest angle, it is a sucker's game.

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                  • #10
                    Ugh, even here I gave to read about election shit? You know what, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and as someone who has been bullied as as kid and had to put a lot into overcoming it's effects, I don't want to be one.

                    If that means some other dude is always better than me at pickup, fine. I see enough guys getting better without being shitty people...just have fun wearing condoms all the time, because contraceptive bans are on the political radar.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DJ_Z View Post
                      You know what, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and as someone who has been bullied as as kid and had to put a lot into overcoming it's effects, I don't want to be one.
                      This.

                      As someone who WAS a young bully. Traveled to a new continent and discovered the ramifications of asshole/caveman game taken to the extreme. (As a black guy no less!) It only takes one unhappy chick on campus to lie for whatever reason... and it's her word over mine... not good at all.

                      Guys who lack charisma will latch onto someone who has it in spades. So yeah, Trump is charismatic, bangs hotties and manipulated his way into the White House.

                      And yes he's a fellow PUA, but I find him immature. And anti Secret Society.

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                      • #12
                        i see people are not reading the post, is not bully as what is known as bully per se (you guys taking the term out of context)

                        is more like some sort of putting people in their place and not taking shit, not the bully that goes around beating up weak opponents...

                        Is not either overcompansating nice guy that went to extreme asshole (overcompensating alpha)

                        P.s. i see a lot of you lack reading comprehension skills or did not read the whole post, or are nitpicking and strawmaning to make ridiculous water is wet points.. which is extremely annoying..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
                          i see people are not reading the post, is not bully as what is known as bully per se (you guys taking the term out of context)

                          is more like some sort of putting people in their place and not taking shit, not the bully that goes around beating up weak opponents...


                          P.s. i see a lot of you lack reading comprehension skills or did not read the whole post, or are nitpicking and strawmaning to make ridiculous water is wet points.. which is extremely annoying..
                          Trump is bully man. He's a bully-tactic polarizer. You chose the wrong title/example/day to drop so many other good points, the negative aspects of Trump-style polarization become the discussion since you left all that out while using him as the title example.

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                          • #14
                            Lol, you didn't quite guess my pov
                            I am more like, its probably best not to talk about Trump here,

                            Very short short comment though
                            his single strength is that he is highly "affable" (this is how he shrugs a lot off, not his views being whatever, if some stern guy tries the same, he's going to be getting severely cut down... also, his competitors had no social abiity, so its big fish in a small pond)
                            everything else he is very average

                            I too looked into Trump like 7 years ago when starting to study business. Figured out quickly he didn't have much other than bravado going on.
                            That he was using fraudster type business models (high prices, exclusive marketting/sales pitch, no genuine benefit in product compared to price)
                            Lol, I am half surprised his golf courses aren't pitch n put places, but with a golden entrance.

                            That shit aside though. Best not to go into that stuff here, best said on reddit or where ever.
                            I think guys are stressed enough as it is figuring shit out in seduction, they don't need political stuff confusing the issue.

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                            • #15
                              I admit I didn't read the whole OP, but I just want to chime in with some criticism- the analogy makes sense, but it falls apart when you think about decorum. Just look at the debates. Trump had no decorum. If he were up against a worthy opponent he would've been destroyed. Likewise in PU there is a way to be polarizing (which btw I agree with- you have to take what you want in this life, because only fools wait to be handed things, and you have to be prepared for people to hate you for it), but if you show no decorum, bad things will happen. Just look at Obama. Say what you want about the man, but he is classy as fuck. Let's see what happens with Trump. I predict a serious attitude change with some decorum, because without it, things will not go his (our) way. Like those classless RSD animals sitting in prison right now for rape, Trump better learn how to conduct himself. This shit is no joke.

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