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  • Are 'vibes' actionable/doable/practical?

    -Im drawing a small map of the various vibes regarded as attractive by our community.
    -And I had to really stop and think, when running into the cloud/cluster containing swagger, cool, chilled, confident, etc...
    -As Ive said ad infinum, telling yourself to feel a certain thing, is very fragile (backfire)..
    -So are we setting a trap for ourselves, by focusing on vibes?
    -Are they not much better than affirmations in this regard?
    -Or are they real actions, that you can immerse ('flow') yourself in without such 'fragility'?

    Ive seen that some show a resistance to the vibe concept, and Im suspecting that their dislike must come from a suspicion along these lines.
    And quite frankly, Im not 100% free from this worry myself. At least something to keep in mind if we proceed with this somewhat new-age'y methodology...

    (Im leaning towards putting '.Theory' style posts in off-topic from now on. I miss .Theory, but I also dislike having a lot of forums. Makes each one too thinly populated, I guess..
    Do you think its a good idea, or should KJ'y topics about PU go in general now?)
    My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

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    I'd say it depends on whether there are observable characteristics that is universal for a vibe (or almost):
    E.g. "most people with x vibe move their arms in y way"; "most people with x vibe have y gaze"

    How descriptive could you point out behaviors. Think of pace, direction, versatility (maybe one vibe has more dynamics)

    Like you could describe a certain gaze to not move a lot, if it moves it's slow, eyelids loose
    Or walking more slowly yet towards a destination, eyes are ahead quite looking into nothing but the general direction
    Most of the time having the eyelids drop and lips quite loose but then tense a bit around lips (as in trying to surpress laughter) while the head is cocked a bit away from someone yet you maintain eye contact (playful smirk)

    Do you think such descriptions will help people at least to illustrate? Of course movie fragments and such help

    Nothing to do with this topic, but I think the general board is too full of whiney, complaint, random, mental masturbation topics. In general, the general board should be a bit less general and more focused on real actionable seduction stuff.

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    • #3
      I think vibes are what we work with in our daily lifes, mainly when we meet people in order to set a main "basic" framework for the convo. (e.g. judging whether we want to engage with the other, good vibes signal fun, bad vibes less fun, and make us depend on what we know)

      However for longer lasting relationships there is more than just vibe and tension and I think that's what you mean.

      Therefor I think for a one nightstand focusing on vibe makes sense, but when you look for something longer, without making someone go pairbonding(irrealistic thing where the image is mainly vibebased I think) you would need more yes?

      (current thoughts, everchangeable & depending on my mood)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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      • #4
        I think being self-aware of your vibe only results in anxiety.
        The Qlue, simple perspectives on life.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Qlue View Post
          I think being self-aware of your vibe only results in anxiety.
          I dare to disagree lol

          You can be selfaware of your vibe and work with it..

          edit: think awareness of your vibe and/or emotions and using them/understanding them+understanding the effect of them on yourself and your surroundings is something people consider part of EQ/emotional intelligence
          Last edited by Kit; 01-04-2017, 05:42 PM.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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          • #6
            Kit!! You are quite skilled at 'riding' your own vibes, right? (Impression I got from your posts before. + you are female, right?)
            Would you say there is a difference in how ride-able different vibes are? Say we were comparing:
            -a sexual vibe
            -a vibe of happiness (or sadness)
            -a vibe of self-content
            My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

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            • #7
              to be honest, for me i sometimes have moments i am fully in tune with them and sometimes I am not.. therefor it would be hard to compare..

              but yeah, sexual vibes obviously open up more kind of modes i think at other vibes.. dunno i dont think of sexual vibes as being a different kind on their own.. its more like all those are on an interconnected spectrum for me..

              so dont really feel adept enough to answer your question.. maybe someone else can.


              from personal experience happyness and sadness come more often and are easier to call up.
              compared to self-content. and then sexual would be the hardest to call up from 0 (since i use memories i guess)

              to ride them depends on yourself and the moment / context a lot I think. They all can be hard / easy in a different way at different moments..

              riding happyness is so easily said, but i remember moments where it was hard. That you feel you want to be happy but still feel some kind of inner sadness/deadness.. (i dont remember why anymore) or the other way around.. feeling like you want to cry and not being able to. (i put on music to make it happen sometimes)
              I think a truly fully sexually loaded vibe is more consuming though, and requires more control+awareness+awakeness

              dunno. Its all so fucking confusing and so much dependent on your lifestyle. My theory is that this stuff gets easier if you 1) allow yourself 2) have a good lifestyle 3) learn how to be in the moment
              for me personally the vibe doesnt matter hardness wise. Ofcourse some stuff comes easier than another, but thats because of the context
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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              • #8
                Seems like a passive way to look at vibes. Like vibes are some object or quality one posses. At most it's seeing "vibes" as something one projects in the world (perhaps with the hope of it resonating with, or at least in someway affecting, someone else.) Seeing vibes this way is indeed fragile. It's weakness comes from selfishness (self-centeredness ?)
                I like to think of "vibing" as an action. One can:
                1) have/project a vibe. (= weak as I mentioned above.) Or,
                2) vibe with someone (= stronger. You actively seek resonance, a common wave length and build amplitude.) Or,
                3) vibe someone (=strongest. You meet them where they are but then change the frequency, amplitude, and power. You lead them somewhere else. Hopefully somewhere they'll want to visit again.)

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                • #9
                  Not exactly sure what you all mean by "vibe", but I think of it as simply having a connection with someone.

                  In terms of actionable advice...do you understand social ettiquette and courtesy, and do you know how to carry casual conversations? If so, and your "subject", the girl, is willing and able, then you know how to "vibe".

                  When there is mutual attraction behind that vibe/connection, I call it pickup.

                  Intetionally carry that vibe/connection to sex, and I call it seduction.

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                  • #10
                    -Attempted to test the actionability.
                    -Decided to walk with a bit of swagger and self-contented expression.
                    -It wasnt hard.
                    -It didnt feel fake or contrived.
                    My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

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                    • #11
                      I like Sase's 3rd vibe idea.

                      And mostly agree with Circ's idea that "[if] you understand social ettiquette and courtesy, and do you know how to carry casual conversations? ... and your "subject", the girl, is willing and able, then you know how to "vibe"."

                      But I think ijii is questioning whether it is teachable in a sense to carry "that" vibe all the way to sex. Which seems a valid question based off of discussions this year, but I'm not sure it is easily teachable.

                      I keep seeing this repetitive 3 lately as being a great balancing factor, so if one were to try and vibe I would assume a rule of three would benefit the endeavor.

                      I can't quite figure out my vibe anymore, compared to a few years ago. I got called basically a grandpa at a party the other day ha!! While, at the same party I had two very sexy girls submit to me after being at a party for an hr or 2 and "vibing them," and then of course my car of people had to leave. And our driver had almost blown our whole group out of every god damned single set at this party, so me and a friend kindly pulled damage control and the party was appeased but our chances were mostly destroyed.

                      Could I tell someone on here how I accomplished sparking major attraction in two girls and horrified another?
                      Yes, my vibe stems from a stoic demeanor with a somewhat flashy style and a quick wit with fun banter. My ec is rather poignant, I can look past a girl and not at her and have her hover IF I noticed she looked for my eyes first... My conversation is eloquent with an undertow of backroom debauchery... But, my looks are about a 5, a 7 at most, lower so to the general 18-24 girls (the one I horrified, she may have been younger).

                      Can I give someone "actionable" advice on how to vibe similarly?
                      It's difficult and will probably pick up some noise in the transmission, but the right ideas will probably emerge eventually if the person is taking action and thinking about it.

                      I don't know, like I said my vibe has been confusing me lately, but I think it's more to do with my outward appearance dilapidating like an unkempt Baroque painting. But then I also strike some serious attraction spikes to the core of some hotties still, so again confusing.

                      I can see how ones internal reliance on a presupposed vibe could be detrimental or considered fragile. If someone is completely reliant on THAT idea of them self, then they are essentially cornered by their own Ego into acting as such. Which is why my vibe is stoic, but free.
                      In Ictu Oculi

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                      • #12
                        I dont understand the concept of vibe completely. But I want to of course. So when someone can explain that too me, it would be nice.
                        When I think about it at the moment from a practical angle I see myself slipping a mood specific role. you slip into the moods to project them to peoples.

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                        • #13
                          Attempt of short explanation:
                          -When you make your face into a smile, a 'signal' of (possibly fake) happiness is transmitted to those who see it.
                          -With practice, you can learn to add a degree of emotion. Smile will look more genuine.
                          -People who see a smile, have a tendency to smile back.
                          -The act of smiling can bring a slight feeling of happiness inside, which in turn can make a bigger smile.
                          -Hence the saying: "Smiles are contagious."

                          For 'PU vibing', we take the above and try to apply it to a variety of mood-expressions.

                          EDIT - here are some synonyms, to help everyone know roughly what we mean:
                          aura
                          mood
                          atmosphere
                          ambiance
                          tone
                          attitude
                          Last edited by ijjjji; 01-06-2017, 11:50 AM.
                          My method: Say "Hello" or "Wow" > shy look > starry-eyed look > spamming cold-read-compliments + feather light touches

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                          • #14
                            So with what expressions would you transmit a sexual and seductive vibe ?
                            From gwm I learned that it's good to imaginate a lot how you have a sexual expirience with her. What I do a lot lately when talking to chicks.
                            From sixty I learned about the poker face and face/eye contact.

                            I think I know how to be in that sexual/seductive mode or in other words I think I know how to slip in the vibe. There is this "it's on" feeling inside myself I can use for that.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Beckstar101 View Post
                              So with what expressions would you transmit a sexual and seductive vibe ?
                              From gwm I learned that it's good to imaginate a lot how you have a sexual expirience with her. What I do a lot lately when talking to chicks.
                              From sixty I learned about the poker face and face/eye contact.

                              I think I know how to be in that sexual/seductive mode or in other words I think I know how to slip in the vibe. There is this "it's on" feeling inside myself I can use for that.
                              That's
                              it

                              I mean, that it's on feeling makes your pupils widen, your bodylanguage to adapt, like a script that starts to run in your body.

                              It's what makes you position your feet towards the girl, makes you bend over/get closer to the girl (even put your arm around her or touch her), makes your face more red/flushed and makes you enjoy it more. It makes both of you get a genuine smile or focus on each other, may affect the amount of times you wink, the amount of times you both look away and the duration+timing of those things.

                              It's what determines what people find genuine and what not.

                              However, by targeting the outer layers only, you can never be truly genuine/calibrated, therefor with vibe usage internalising memories anchored to the vibes / some keymodes of awareness that calls up the modes is required..

                              Unfortunately as ijjjji is pointing out this is very hard and the question remains whether it's workable.

                              However the question was about how you can get a teensy spark of some vibe/emotion and use it to call up one of those modes.. and yeah, this is 100% fully possible/workable in my eyes

                              I don't know how to answer it, because I just don't use any structure in how I relate/am with people.I like to be spontaneous too much to actually help others achieve this. I don't like predictable, structures & reproducing with the goal of reproduction.

                              The other thing ijjjji mentioned was how you can actually take a few of the outer layer things and call up the state/vibe up together other outer things by yourself.. (which made sense to you I think)
                              so to answer your question:
                              So with what expressions would you transmit a sexual and seductive vibe ?
                              You know what your seductive/sexual mode is better than anyone else.. focus on moments you feel the vibe and notice (maybe best in hindsight) what is essential for you.
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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