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  • Breaking bad

    So,has Walter become an alpha?And what the fuck is wrong with Skyler?
    Please elaborate,I am confused.

  • #2
    I think he's becoming an egotistic megalomaniac, who for some reason we all keep hoping to succeed. I suppose it's why the show is so clever.
    On the other hand we're supposed to hate Skylar because she's foiling Walt's awesome plans, but if you look at the current moral situation, she has every right to protect her kids from him.

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    • #3
      Let's all keep in mind that Breaking Bad is a tv show and only reflects

      1) the characters' current position in the character development arch as well as
      2) who the writers need the characters to be at any specific moment to drive the story further.

      The story will end with either a

      a) happy ending: Walt manages a clean break with the drug business and somehow reunites with his family while framing his greatest antagonist for being the master "chef"
      or a
      b) moral ending: Walt succumbs to the drug business fully, becomes the antagonist to Skylar's protagonist and maybe dies

      People will feel/root for Walt until the very end because they've all bleed with him being repressed by society and Gus for the first few seasons [which have imprinted imprinted his first impression onto the viewers] while they witness his downfall.

      Nick

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      • #4
        I recently got done watching the old seasons of Breaking Bad. I don't like TV shows (I'm a movie guy) but so many people told me it was awesome I had to check it out.

        It was awesome, in that it's a very well-done show. I liked it. However the show is so negative and depressing it actually started effecting my mission and my motivation. Too much negativity dumped into your brain, even "quality" negativity, is a bad idea if you want to maintain a happy life. This is one of the reasons I never watch movies like Saw and Hostel, though Breaking Bad isn't gory, it's just depressing, which is almost worse.

        Perhaps it was because I watched several seasons all in a big chunk instead of one episode a week, but in the world of DVDs and Netflix that's how a lot of people watch TV shows these days. Regardless, I have purposely avoided watching the new season to keep my mental health back at optimal levels. Maybe down the road I'll check it out, like one episode every two weeks or something.
        How to have 3 hour meet-to-lays and nonmonogamous relationships with any type of woman:
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blackdragon View Post
          Too much negativity dumped into your brain, even "quality" negativity, is a bad idea if you want to maintain a happy life.
          Couldn't agree more. Reading depressive stuff is also a terrible idea.

          I read very little (outside of technical stuff) nowadays and watch only things I have consciously decided to watch. I never liked watching TV anyway, I am also a movie guy.

          I'd actually say that the highest dose of negativity that I get daily is probably from some of the posters here. But there are also cool posters here, so it evens out.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blackdragon View Post
            However the show is so negative and depressing it actually started effecting my mission and my motivation.
            I noticed similar things when i hung out with negative people. There is a famous psychological experiment where they had participants unscramble sentences that made heavy use of words like Florida, old, bingo, wrinkle, walking cane, etc. The control group got normal words. The actual experiment happened when the participants left the room and walked through the hallway out. One of the experimenters used a stopwatch and they found out that the people who got the words linked with 'old people' took significantly longer to get from one end of the hall to the other than the participants from the control group. If even words can have such a big effect on your unconscious behaviour it makes me wonder how much influence a negative tv show or a negative friend can have on you.
            (here is the study: http://www.yale.edu/acmelab/articles...rrows_1996.pdf)

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            • #7
              You guys are right. This show is very negative. I made a transformation a few years ago in that I stopped listening to negative music (porcupine tree, silverchair, nirvana - kill me now :P) and have actively tried to remain positive when it comes to seeking media.
              I found that its hard to make the transition because I have a very realistic view on life. I do not like anything imaginary (such as superheros, wizards, wacky comedies) so finding the right movies and tv shows becomes challenging.

              I would like there to be a show about one man who constantly strives to better himself, while at the same time not neglecting those around him and having some major vice. This would probably be an impossible formula for hollywood because they've already figured out what we want.
              Why is negativity so widely accepted?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Futureproof View Post
                a few years ago in that I stopped listening to negative music
                Now see, that's an even tougher one. I love listening to bands like Linkin Park and Disturbed. Fantastic music and it really pumps me up. But a lot of the lyrics of those songs are so god damn negative (and sometimes so AFC) I know I'm programming myself with all the wrong crap. And it SUCKS because the music is so perfect.

                I've always loved hard rock and I've always had that problem. Once I tried listening to Christian hard rock to see if that was any better. Nope. Instead of evil, negative lyrics it was pussy religious lyrics.

                Us hard rock guys just can't win. Good hard rock songs with positive lyrics are very rare. The best one is Stay Hungry by Twisted Sister, but you have to go back in time 25 years to find that one!
                How to have 3 hour meet-to-lays and nonmonogamous relationships with any type of woman:
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                • #9
                  I don't usually watch TV, but when I do ...

                  Anyway, it seems that TV series have the facheuse habit of wanting to please all categories when they kick off, this of course means that if the main characters are men, they will give more importance to the women on the second season.

                  It's a pattern and it's hard not to see it once you have seen it.

                  For me, a good show is one where you don't really take shortcuts. This means respecting the event-sequence, respecting the characters psychology. This means the writers don't make characters do something which they wouldn't normally do just to take the story in a certain direction.

                  They can do that, but it has to be on several episodes to reflect the human nature. Not in the space of one episode, and certainly NOT break what made the success of the previous season.

                  They need to understand that if something isn't broken, there's no need to fix it.

                  Usually, a TV series will kick absolute ass, phenomenal success in the first season.. And then, some cock-less dudes will say "Hmmm .. Let's make it even better".. No ! Don't, little faggot !

                  An example is Boardwalk Empire. It's about Capone, Lucky Luciano, Nucky Johnson (although renamed Thompson in the show). Hard gangsters in the first season who get dictated the way they run the FUCKING MOB by their wives in the second one.

                  It goes the same with a show I used to enjoy called "Human Target". I loved that fucking show because I was studying very hard last year (16 hours a day for a month, I was in reclusion), and it was a good show to take a pause with.

                  I saw the second season .. The guys started taking orders from a woman and generally speaking, they cut the characters' dicks.


                  There's a show I love too called "The Unit". It's about fucking Delta Force guys. Tough guys, kicking ass. The kind of shows you enjoy watching. The theme song alone attracts you like pussy juice attracts bees


                  The second season ? It gets worse. The show gets more and more about the soldiers wives than it is about them. It was ligth in the first season and it was okay (I guess that what made women watch it).. Then combat scences became rare.

                  Now get this .. The third season .. The them song is changed to this.



                  I don't even need to tell you how crappy the lyrics are. What was wrong with the original one ? It was manly, it made you want to get your ass off and kick something, as was the show. It made you want to be a champ.

                  I have to say though that there are plenty of flaws in that show, like translations not being accurate (I speak about five languages fluently, and they're off, especially on the Arabic portions) and they talked about Algeria a couple of times and they were really off (the character was supposed to work in the Algerian desert as a protection driver for the president of an oil company and then dies, when in reality, a fucking military escort is mobilized when there is an expat (Algerian law states so) whether it's a simple operator, let alone an engineer or a president. Oil being as important as it is, the South is one of the safest places you can work in. The part on the swimming pool, the gym, etc is right. And the salary is important too.

                  The most perfect show I've seen is "Mad Men". People writing this aren't fucking around. They don't compromize on the plot and story. It's just the most perfect I've seen. And what is more important is that it's a sustained quality. It's not just the first season. It's the second and the third, etc..

                  Even Californication isn't that good. Simplistic ways, redundant stuff, etc...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Blackdragon View Post
                    This is one of the reasons I never watch movies like Saw and Hostel,
                    I won't say anything about Hostel, but Saw is a horror movie about a self empowered libertarian named John Cramer who, after being diagnosed with terminal cancer followed by a suicide attempt, has decided to make it his mission in life to make other people as self empowered and happy as he is by getting them to appreciate the beauty of their lives via shock therapy.

                    He does this by kidnapping people who are suicidal, depressed, not appreciative of their lives, or just not motivated to succeed, and putting them in a room where they must pass a series of tests. If they are suicidal enough, they will do nothing, which will result in their deaths. But if they realize that they wish to live, they will have to pass the specific tests which he has set up for them. This may result in the literal loss of an arm or a leg, but the end result is meant to be their own mental liberation from their initial feelings of disempowerment through the realization that life is a beautiful thing, which they just lost an arm or a leg in an attempt to preserve. They are meant to feel so happy that they are alive, that they will never take life for granted ever again, and will, from now on, live each moment to its absolute fullest.

                    John Cramer, known as Jigsaw, as stated, is a libertarian who is anti-death penalty, believing that living or dying is a decision which every individual must make for themselves, with him simply supplying the option for people who think that life sucks in order to see if they truly believe that and are really suicidal, in which case, they deserve to die, according to him, or lose an arm or a leg in order to change their perspective, or if they claimed to be depressed because they just wanted attention, in which case, they deserve to lose an arm or a leg for their deception and realize that attention whoring is not nice.

                    I actually thought of you, Blackdragon, when I watched the 7 Saws. I would think that someone like you would appreciate the message of hope, optimism, and unapologetic (indeed merciless) personal responsibility which Jigsaw seeks to instill in his test subjects which your philosophy of life embodies.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NWP View Post
                      I would think that someone like you would appreciate the message of hope, optimism, and unapologetic (indeed merciless) personal responsibility which Jigsaw seeks to instill in his test subjects which your philosophy of life embodies.
                      While watching people saw off their own arms or digging out their own eyeballs? Uh, no.
                      How to have 3 hour meet-to-lays and nonmonogamous relationships with any type of woman:
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                      • #12
                        I find that comedies are good to watch, especially shows that are based on banter between the characters. It's a fine line though, because a lot of comedies have total wussies for lead men. I watch for the way they construct interactions and the way the characters bounce off each other. What's great is that by simply watching, the sense of humor works its way into your personality without you even having to try.

                        Californication, Archer, Home Movies, IT crowd, Workaholics, The Mighty Boosh, Monty Python, Kids in the Hall

                        I'm sure there's more, but that's a start.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blackdragon View Post
                          I recently got done watching the old seasons of Breaking Bad. I don't like TV shows (I'm a movie guy) but so many people told me it was awesome I had to check it out.

                          It was awesome, in that it's a very well-done show. I liked it. However the show is so negative and depressing it actually started effecting my mission and my motivation. Too much negativity dumped into your brain, even "quality" negativity, is a bad idea if you want to maintain a happy life. This is one of the reasons I never watch movies like Saw and Hostel, though Breaking Bad isn't gory, it's just depressing, which is almost worse.

                          Perhaps it was because I watched several seasons all in a big chunk instead of one episode a week, but in the world of DVDs and Netflix that's how a lot of people watch TV shows these days. Regardless, I have purposely avoided watching the new season to keep my mental health back at optimal levels. Maybe down the road I'll check it out, like one episode every two weeks or something.

                          I agree with all of that.

                          I think you might like shows like Suits, Entourage and Californication (I know you've watched some Californication). Those three are also very well done and they are upbeat and funny too. I love to watch an episode of Entourage or Californication right before going out for the night.

                          I loved Sopranos but it did get quite depressing in the final Season 6. Quite possibly the best TV series ever, according to me and many TV critics as well.

                          Breaking Bad, I am still watching it in moderation. There are some good business and negotiation lessons there, believe it or not.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Futureproof View Post
                            I would like there to be a show about one man who constantly strives to better himself, while at the same time not neglecting those around him and having some major vice. This would probably be an impossible formula for hollywood because they've already figured out what we want.
                            Why is negativity so widely accepted?
                            Check out Suits:

                            http://youtu.be/RlwqqiXBQ6c


                            What I like about Suits is, while there is a lot of AFC-ness and bitchy female behaviour (real world stuff), the alpha males interact with these women on an entirely different level.



                            Also Mad Men. The character Don Draper is an inspiration to me as a businessman:

                            http://youtu.be/5y4b-DEkIps



                            And as a ladies' man:

                            http://youtu.be/FOPXMzkq8EU


                            This woman, as you can probably guess, ends up cheating on her husband with Don.

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                            • #15
                              Watching Entourage gets me fucking pumped! Just caught up on breaking bad and am impressed with this season so far.

                              ^^ I think that second Mad Men clip should come with a "don't try this during your business negotiations" warning, no?

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