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    Cocporn is one of the most “underrated players in the forum” , he is very low key, and in my opinion he likes “seduction” but dislike the community crowd per se (my opinion probably due to kjs and annoyance”
    Cocporn is not a nerd to success story, but a season player in all types of games…(also was a norweigan night gamer)
    He also owned or owns a meet and greet dating service at one point…
    Unlike the “how to get laid in tinder book” by the rev. Which is focus on screening and dtf
    His book is more “technical” and he still screen but is a more systematic approach, still fast sex…
    Also tons of tips and technical advice for tinder and methodical and systematic system.
    Note his online advice is only tailored to tinder no other dating platforms such pof or okupid.

    Book includes step by step of meet to lay fast and the way it works and the resoning behind it…
    Tricks and advice to improve your looks online(including make up)
    Multiple amazing and effective banter to get the meet.
    Multiple technology tools to make things more effective.
    Multiple samples of meet to lay with live interactions.
    psychology of women on tinder
    what works and does not and the why...

    I saw myself taking a lot of notes (my first time doing so reading a seduction book)
    And I used with success some of his banter in other apps with great success…
    Soon I will implement his full method when I start tinder.
    I give him a strong 10 out of 10 and recommend for anybody interested in improving tinder game.

    Soon to log his advice in my online journal.





  • #2
    Thank you for this!

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    • #3
      -I hate books. (Tendency of excessive bloating of concept best kept simple!)
      -I hated this book too (did a 30min skim), but I hated it far less than I usually do. 100x better than rev's book imho. So if you are hell-bent on reading an entire book about online, this is the one you should get.
      -His meet up tactic is the usual bullshit. You already know where the proper method for that is located.
      -I think his 'banter' was mixed. Opening lines were ok. Rest was a bit garbage per my taste. I hope Skills will try to prove me wrong and report back though.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ijjjji View Post
        -I hate books. (Tendency of excessive bloating of concept best kept simple!)
        -I hated this book too (did a 30min skim), but I hated it far less than I usually do. 100x better than rev's book imho. So if you are hell-bent on reading an entire book about online, this is the one you should get.
        -His meet up tactic is the usual bullshit. You already know where the proper method for that is located.
        -I think his 'banter' was mixed. Opening lines were ok. Rest was a bit garbage per my taste. I hope Skills will try to prove me wrong and report back though.
        well that is my problem that my method and yours of text banter to meet are very similar. But i don't know since i never done tinder, it worked for him though..

        I am trying to get the professional pics, so just waiting on that...

        Night game is still my primary.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
          well that is my problem that my method and yours of text banter to meet are very similar. But i don't know since i never done tinder, it worked for him though..
          I wouldn't go so specific as to adopt someone else's banter style if I were in your shoes. You don't have to recalibrate THAT much, online isn't any different in that respect, girls are girls. You're so deep into the game online is going to mostly be about getting a feel for the logistical flow and putting up the right attractors to begin with. Once you're locked into a text conversation (or face to face) it isn't any different than any other text conversation (or day 2). Its just a guy chatting up a girl, the "online/app" part is over.

          I mean. . . if you're feeling the need to improve your banter and texting that's one thing, but if your banter is field tested solid and finessed, just do you when it comes to the specifics. You're adding a small spoke to the wheel that almost entirely has to do with the front end (attracting a different pool of girls than you may find at the club), not reinventing the wheel entirely.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pureevil View Post

            I wouldn't go so specific as to adopt someone's banter style if I were in your shoes. You don't have to recalibrate THAT much, online isn't any different in that respect, girls are girls. With the specifics, I'd do you. Use these guides for help with the bigger ideas and general flow of the interaction.

            I mean. . . if you're feeling the need to improve your banter and texting that's one thing, but if your banter is field tested solid and finessed, just do you when it comes to the specifics.
            well that is my biggest problem that i am not being congruent and i am willing to take the "initial lack of results" till i adopt the new style... But for my understanding of the book of cocporn women in tinder will punish long interactions... Since i have not done tinder i am going by someone that is successful and i can model (kant did similar too)...

            so you are saying in tinder is not needed you can do the "set up specific encounter banter" . How do you do it?

            another thing is that in his profile he does not say much only his height and his prosaic sign...

            In traditional sites i been having success with my retarded profile

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
              well that is my biggest problem that i am not being congruent and i am willing to take the "initial lack of results" till i adopt the new style... But for my understanding of the book of cocporn women in tinder will punish long interactions... Since i have not done tinder i am going by someone that is successful and i can model (kant did similar too)...
              You've gotta realize his target market man, he's not writing this to the experienced like yourself.

              The risk with long texts comes when guys have no clue how to advance an interaction and they come off AFC chumps who are too afraid to make a move. If you're great at texting (which I can be if the girl will engage) then I'll go so far as to run 100 messages over Tinder/OkCupid and build enough comfort/horniness to where they come right over to fuck without a meet first (done this at least 10 times since last summer, ages ranging 18-39). NOTHING is different than in real life, the ONLY difference is that an app is winging you to give you warm introductions to half-interested girls.

              If the girl isn't that great at texting or is making it hard to engage, pitch the meet and take it from there. Like you would if you'd met her at the club and she wasn't biting on the banter. Its the same as any other phone number you're gaming at that point.

              The key is to not chump yourself out, as normal. If your texting is BUILDING intrigue/attraction/horniness/emotional engagement, then its GOOD. Its just most guys reading Tinder guides are chumps looking for a hookup shortcut who don't have much game, so the general advice is to STFU and work your way through the logistics.

              Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
              so you are saying in tinder is not needed you can do the "set up specific encounter banter" . How do you do it?
              Just be you man! You're already a fine tuned fucking machine. Attraction is attraction, horniness is horniness, the app's just a wing tossing you warms. . .

              Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
              another thing is that in his profile he does not say much only his height and his prosaic sign...

              In traditional sites i been having success with my retarded profile
              Again, the risk here is chumpy guys writing terrible profiles. You've got game. . for guys with game, WORDS WORK. They're not something to run from. I've tried no words, a few lines, and lots of words. When there's something there to write about, I notice more girls open me. One or two "bait" type lines that give them something to write to me about seem to do me best but its really not a big difference, and outside the rare case its ugs hitting you up.

              I ended up eliminating putting up my sign though in all the apps, girls into astrology will weed you OUT for that much more than IN. If they're on the fence, and you're astrologically incompatible, adios, they've swiped left and you're out.

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              • #8
                Want to be clear I haven't read the book and cocporn is a pimp that knows his shit.

                Just noting the bit ijji and skills brought up about the specific banter style, which tends to be an "insert your own style here" type thing when looking at ANY method for fully developed guys who already have a working personalized conversational/banter style.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                  Want to be clear I haven't read the book and cocporn is a pimp that knows his shit.

                  Just noting the bit ijji and skills brought up about the specific banter style, which tends to be an "insert your own style here" type thing when looking at ANY method for fully developed guys who already have a working personalized conversational/banter style.
                  actually you have made the biggest contribution and difference in my "online game" after you wrote that i adapted my "own style" and is "exactly were i want it to be...as of now...(Saturday i may get my first online lay since 8 years)


                  And popcorn style is solid i gave 10 out of 10 and will field test it...(but i most likely end up doing my own style of long banter)

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                  • #10
                    Cocporn’s book, Ignite, provides an elaborate framework for mobile »dating«. Of course it is not a golden bullet or something one should copy one-to-one, this doesn’t exist. It is more a methodical approach, one can complete with one’’’s own style and preferences.

                    Discussions about the banter and conversation examples in the book are irrelevant. I am sure it works for him and not necessarily for everybody. Having said that, I borrowed a few lines from the book…

                    The book helped me to test my profile images and I am using the »Funnel/Trello Method« for my online and real world interactions. The Concepts and Communication sections are well written and to the point.

                    The style is a bit technical but precise and good to read. Cocporn doesn’t want to sell a system or make people pay for bootcamps; he seems to have a life and job away from the community and offers his book free of charge.

                    Ignite is one of the best books about the subjects I have read.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Delenclos View Post
                      Cocporn’s book, Ignite, provides an elaborate framework for mobile »dating«. Of course it is not a golden bullet or something one should copy one-to-one, this doesn’t exist. It is more a methodical approach, one can complete with one’’’s own style and preferences.

                      Discussions about the banter and conversation examples in the book are irrelevant. I am sure it works for him and not necessarily for everybody. Having said that, I borrowed a few lines from the book…

                      The book helped me to test my profile images and I am using the »Funnel/Trello Method« for my online and real world interactions. The Concepts and Communication sections are well written and to the point.

                      The style is a bit technical but precise and good to read. Cocporn doesn’t want to sell a system or make people pay for bootcamps; he seems to have a life and job away from the community and offers his book free of charge.

                      Ignite is one of the best books about the subjects I have read.
                      Good review, totally agree...

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                      • #12
                        Hey, guys! Thanks for all the feedback, I really (REALLY) appreciate it. To those who haven't yet looked at the book and want to, it is available here for free: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ITE/iGNITE.pdf

                        I do want to point out that the book is more than three years old, and while most of the concepts are still "valid", it seems like a lot has changed on Tinder, and people are having a harder time there. I am probably about to revisit it myself as I just got out of a relationship, and "why not". Also, after skimming it again, I am pretty sure my views on a lot of the topics have changed, so I might actually try to document what I'm doing this time around also. I am sure I will reject a lot of my own advice in doing so; as someone said "it won't apply to everyone", including, apparently, my future self. I am, however, happy that some people find value in it. Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          "for guys with game, WORDS WORK"

                          I second that. The "few words" approach is not enough to create attraction.
                          The heavy work is to know when to recognize att whoring (some chicks can be very very deceiving) and not become an orbiter.

                          I'll check the book for sure! Really like COCPORN style from his previous posts.

                          About tinder, it has become more social than before (like an Instagram with spice). As a matter of fact I've seen ALL of my girls with profiles there (even current MLTRs and past mono GFs). So the "guns blazing game in your face" approach will probably not get a good lay ratio anymore (unless you're hard sexting and screening for DTF chicks...but good luck with that in 2017).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by POB View Post
                            "for guys with game, WORDS WORK"

                            I second that. The "few words" approach is not enough to create attraction.
                            The heavy work is to know when to recognize att whoring (some chicks can be very very deceiving) and not become an orbiter.

                            I'll check the book for sure! Really like COCPORN style from his previous posts.

                            About tinder, it has become more social than before (like an Instagram with spice). As a matter of fact I've seen ALL of my girls with profiles there (even current MLTRs and past mono GFs). So the "guns blazing game in your face" approach will probably not get a good lay ratio anymore (unless you're hard sexting and screening for DTF chicks...but good luck with that in 2017).
                            well in my first "encounter aka date" i used the minimum possible banter instead of my long banter, and the problem for me was i felt i did not have a lot of control of the situation, i felt like i was playing it "safe"

                            when i let go is night and day i feel more control... My problem with long banter is that yes i get them super comfortable and to open up a lot specially sexually... But but sometimes i get MYSELF TOO COMFORTABLE, and lazy but my biggest problem is i over reach, like i really fucked up setting up relationship frame texting "monogamy does not work" blah balh, bd junior wanna be with the stupid speach, just lost a girl that sex was set up already saturday, with my stupidity...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
                              like i really fucked up setting up relationship frame texting "monogamy does not work" blah balh, bd junior wanna be with the stupid speach, just lost a girl that sex was set up already saturday, with my stupidity...
                              Oh lord man NEVER go manosphere SJW fighting for a cause lol. I don't go to anything remotely related to those sites at ALL anymore (not even to troll BD for fun with the occasional comment lol), I don't need that crap filling my head at any subconscious level whatsoever. Not one dude I know in real life that regularly fucks hot girls is even remotely thinking along those lines, I want all my thoughts and mentalities aligned with dudes who smash pussy in real life regularly.

                              A lot of pua-related stuff is actually sexually toxic and pussy-drying, you gotta be careful what you feed into your subconscious, cause that shit pops back out without warning whenever you're being "in the moment" and "natural."

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