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  • #16
    Originally posted by pureevil View Post

    Oh lord man NEVER go manosphere SJW lol. I don't go to anything remotely related to those sites at ALL anymore (not even to troll BD for fun with the occasional comment lol), I don't need that crap filling my head at any subconscious level whatsoever. Not one dude I know in real life that fucks girls even remotely is thinking along those lines, I want all my thoughts and mentalities aligned with dudes who smash pussy in real life regularly.
    Trust me i feel the dumbest of the dumbest i texted her this:

    Structure for a marriage:
    -She pushes men for commitment
    -She gets what she wants
    -She loses interest in sex… Um at least with him…
    -She becomes attracted to someone else.
    -She starts cheating
    -She begins telling their him that they need time apart
    -She blames their him for her behavior…and eventually, after a long time of vacillating back and forth, they end their relationships or marriage.

    and a long mini bd explanation (too embarrassed to post the logs)

    After that everything went to shit.... From how passionate sex is going to be to:

    okupid: It's been great chatting with you, dear Felipe!!! No, our dating ain't going anywhere - as you also would agree. I wish you all the best though... 4:20 PM
    Me: I disagree, but ok... 4:23 PM


    Brb killing myself for my fucking stupidity, but yes never talk this shit note to self...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
      , but yes never talk this shit note to self...
      That's a painful string of texts, Hall Of Shame material lol.

      I'm taking it one step further and saying don't even put this shit in your head to begin with. I won't even read this shit anymore. Its simply not necessary to focus on that stuff at all outside a certain few very specific key moments in life, and filling your head with this stuff on a daily/weekly basis causes your "natural, in the moment" state to have ammunition sitting at the very top of your subconscious that does nothing for you except to FUCK YOU OVER and cockblock you, as it just did lol.

      If you create abundance for yourself then unless you're planning on getting a legal contractual marriage (or live in a state that can force them in some way through certain types of long-term live-in situations) there's no reason to think about ANY of that shit EVER.

      Yeah people get tired of each other and break up as time goes on. There's an observable relationship cycle that's often by the book, and the girl usually pulls the breakup trigger or acts the catalyst. Fine, noted. THE END. You don't need to re-up and get worked up about it on a weekly/daily basis, where when you're in a "in the flow" moment it just flows right out cause its always fresh on top lol.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pureevil View Post

        That's a painful string of texts, Hall Of Shame material lol.

        I'm taking it one step further and saying don't even put this shit in your head to begin with. I won't even read this shit anymore. Its simply not necessary to focus on that stuff at all outside a certain few very specific key moments in life, and filling your head with this stuff on a daily/weekly basis causes your "natural, in the moment" state to have ammunition sitting at the very top of your subconscious that does nothing for you except to FUCK YOU OVER and cockblock you, as it just did lol.

        If you create abundance for yourself then unless you're planning on getting a legal contractual marriage (or live in a state that can force them in some way through certain types of long-term live-in situations) there's no reason to think about ANY of that shit EVER.

        Yeah people get tired of each other and break up as time goes on. There's an observable relationship cycle that's often by the book, and the girl usually pulls the breakup trigger or acts the catalyst. Fine, noted. THE END. You don't need to re-up and get worked up about it on a weekly/daily basis, where when you're in a "in the flow" moment it just flows right out cause its always fresh on top lol.
        Definitely it fucks with the ras a lot, yeah happened to me recently, i stop going to roosh forum and the anti seduction forums and i barely go to sleazy blog...

        But is nobody fault but mine, i been doing this for too long to make silly mistakes, i got overly cooky and greedy and tried to push too much but in the wrong way, something i should have known, again back to texting/online


        ^ i got to comfortable and i need to wait a bit before shooting my text (ironically which is what i advice "think what are you subcommunicating before texting") what i subcommunicated is that i will never be mono... To a girl looking for a "relationship" too much too fast. This is fine post fuck not pre fuck, embarrassing...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
          well in my first "encounter aka date" i used the minimum possible banter instead of my long banter, and the problem for me was i felt i did not have a lot of control of the situation, i felt like i was playing it "safe"

          when i let go is night and day i feel more control...
          Once you get to a certain stage you should never use another style as your own. You can mimic the lines, the routines, etc, and adapt them to your own style, but never copy>paste this stuff. This goes double if you're coming from another game style in which you were successful.

          Skills, man, trust our guts! You have a flirt heavy text heavy style with lots of playful banter and silliness...so use that shit in your favor (even when doing online).

          Guys who've been in this life for too long don't need to be on a leash. As you said they need to be in "control" - but free flowing at the same time.

          EDIT: BD talks to a broader audience....a lot of his readers will never have PU as a goal and are there just hoping to learn the basics (get laid after a break-up or dry spell). You should always have that in mind when reading his stuff.

          EDIT 2: BTW, I can't share PE mindset because BD's material helped me a lot when I was starting (and mostly I like his stuff) but he's right when he says you should pay less attention to outside dogmas that conflict to your own style.

          EDIT 3: think about it like trying to put Kyrie Irving through a cone dribble routine instead of letting he do his own thing

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          • #20
            Originally posted by POB View Post


            EDIT: BD talks to a broader audience....a lot of his readers will never have PU as a goal and are there just hoping to learn the basics (get laid after a break-up or dry spell). You should always have that in mind when reading his stuff.

            EDIT 2: BTW, I can't share PE mindset because BD's material helped me a lot when I was starting (and mostly I like his stuff) but he's right when he says you should pay less attention to outside dogmas that conflict to your own style.
            Yeah! i think you miss understood when i say i "went bd junior" is not bashing bd, i don't think pe was, i was making an anology i could have said i went nwp junior, or i went jws junior...

            It was not "pointing at bd" it was just making the explanation more "animated"... Pe and my point is not too get into those "relationship red pill" type talks right of the back... is not "oh i listen to bd that is why i fucked up" get it...

            so going sjw and stuff like that is too heavy specially pre-sex....

            pe point is that reading too much "red pill" stuff also can influence your ras and affect your interactions (nothing against bd)...

            Again i said sometimes i went all "pe junior" to make an animated point that i went psycho analyzing, get me? no bashing pe per se... hope that clears stuff up...


            I got also got fooled by the vibe: i thought she was a "red pill" type girl...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by POB View Post
              EDIT 2: BTW, I can't share PE mindset because BD's material helped me a lot when I was starting (and mostly I like his stuff) but he's right when he says you should pay less attention to outside dogmas that conflict to your own style.
              Def good stuff to know!

              I'm just talking about the quantity in which its consumed.

              In general, I'm in the process of trying to only fill my head with things that will help me in what I want out of life. Like, EVERYTHING. . the music I listen to, the movies I watch, the people in my life, the conversations I care to have, the degree to which i pay attention to current events, my sources for current events. . . I'm making a conscientious effort to fill my head with all the right things.

              My head is thus increasingly full of positive life enhancing self-selected input, that makes my natural responses to everything much more in line with how I want to be. So if a girl talks monogamy like in Skills360 situation, because of the things I'm choosing to fill my head with, my natural response would be something like "yeah its so beautiful when two people are in love" instead of where Skills naturally went, which is something that makes her pussy wet and gets me way closer to fucking her and has fuck all to do with some stupid serious discussion of monogamy and marriage which is anti-seductive pussy drying shit you don't really need in your head at all except for 2-3 points in your life.

              I get the warnings and all that, and I think its good to note them, and the guys into that are serving a good cause, and everyone should swing by their sites and take note of the warnings. But then that's that. . you don't have to go read the "Poison Hotline" sticker everyday, you make yourself aware of the poison, you avoid the poison, and when you come in contact with the poison you then call the number on the sticker. Until you're in an actual warning situation. . who cares.

              Meditation is what's led me to this. Sounds cheeseballs but i realized what a clutter my mind was, full of shit that doesn't need to be there affecting my actions. Blah. I'm really trying to fill it with all the right stuff, the stuff that is most helpful in steering me towards what I want out of life.

              Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
              Again i said sometimes i went all "pe junior" to make an animated point that i went psycho analyzing, get me? no bashing pe per se... hope that clears stuff up...
              .
              He was def a junior haha. He was a miss pe junior, actually. But enough truth there lol, I thought it was funny i know my quirks.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pureevil View Post
                I'm just talking about the quantity in which its consumed.
                Hahaha, yes, especially when guys are red pillin' for the first time. Rubber band effect I guess.

                Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
                pe point is that reading too much "red pill" stuff also can influence your ras and affect your interactions (nothing against bd)...
                Too much medicine will make you sick. This is why sometimes I vanish from here (and other related sites) and go live like a regular dude who does not do monogamy and sarges women like a horn dog...oh shit, wait a minute...busted

                Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
                I got also got fooled by the vibe: i thought she was a "red pill" type girl...
                That one made me spill my tea...damn you!

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                • #23
                  Three years ago I used the information of this book to my advantage. Several meets from using the script. Also fucking most girls on day1 after those meets.

                  girls admitted its strange they know nothing about me yet meet me

                  that script worked so well because you get her to invest and answer your questions. So shes in your frame.. youre the screener (great concept cocp)


                  after that initial investnent.. frame typing too much as not worthwhile and drinks instead

                  'im not a big fan of typing for hours on a screen'

                  she'd be silly to say she loves a keyboard over a real conversation .. some do.. but most will agree after that (u still get flakes but it wasnt that much of an issue)..

                  best about it is you remain in charge of the conv, shell answer your stuff and you dont say too much she could screen you out for...

                  thats i think a big deal of tinder... not letting the women take frame and screen you (bores them as soon you qualify to them the least)
                  but also not set too polarizing frames they will be unsure about and might not 'get' without your persona there

                  yeah i think the 'ready for your test?' Script was genius

                  Wanted to get you a beer while I was in your city, but didnt get to meet up unfortunately

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                  • #24
                    well since a lot of you don't read my retarded online journal, i texted this to the girl that send me to fuck off, since i have nothing to lose, i went cringe worthy blue pill..:

                    In before the nitpicking, i know is cringe worthy, the reason i texted this, is cause she DELETED her profile, which subcommunicate she was REALLY INTO ME...


                    skillscringe360: omg! you deleted your profile :-(, anyways, i know you are upset but, i want you to understand that English is my second language and if you go back to the texts is a bunch of "out of timing text" and "out of context text" and misunderstood context, i was discussing relationship dynamics and theories(i think you personalized it to me and you)... take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naleynXS7yo Anyways, it was nice too meet you and i learned a lot from you, thank you! i will search for another okkupidnickname, doubt i will find someone as awesome as you are, don't ever change :-( . I won't bother you anymore, but i just wanted to get that out, now that some time has passed and the emotions are not high... Muazzz!

                    and as always my stupidity works, but i have no idea what she is saying:


                    okkupidgirl:"I was busy hanging out and helping a friend yesterday and passed out early...
                    Dear Felipe, You're an amazing soul and a great man.
                    I am honored and thank you for your understanding me and seeing beauty in me, as it's nothing but your own greatness you see in me.
                    I am not upset; maybe felt a bit misunderstood then, but, again, I always take responsibility for my own feelings and never hold others responsible.
                    But thank you for mirroring all that back to me.
                    Yes, we can connect at a friendly capacity first - in order not to let judgments cloud each other's genuine goodness."


                    ^ i don't understand her subcommunication since she speaks so weird, but i am assuming is back on..


                    Anyways, i saw another girl yesterday and i finally get this whole thing, (well now i need to do tinder, trying to get professional pics, i plan to do popcorn method to start with if no biting on banter, move them to google voice with my sextrolling if they bite on banter), but with the traditional sites, i got a bit figured out, as soon as i get bored sitting in the coffee place, i move them to isolation (park for example), and get physical... The moving around changes my mindset to night game isolation, also i am setting "encounters" at 9 (which dinner in usa is 7) so i don't get paranoid avoid paying for dinner....


                    Last edited by Skills360; 07-31-2017, 12:25 AM.

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                    • #25
                      COCPORN book is really good (as expected).
                      Probably needs minor updates, but thx man!
                      Very usefull stuff!

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                      • #26
                        Skills360, keep it simple man. Jesus. You see a girl you want to screw and you think you need to build the Millenium Falcon & play 4D chess & Napoleonic strategy and ... shit. You're overcomplicating matters. Also, getting sucked into the girl's frame. How she sees the situation is gospel, etc.

                        First off, obviously, NEVER verbalize the matrix (figure of speech of - never talk about seduction during seduction, ever, k?). Especially angry manosphere shit like BD's "monogamy doesn't work." Even BD doesn't say that to new women he's screwing, guaranteed. He may hint that he's not looking for monogamy at some point, not launch into an intellectual tirade.

                        There's literally no point to saying that to a woman, other than wanting to seem "smart" and "deep" and "experienced" -- but those are misguided ideas.

                        Also, get back to basics. Text less characters than her messages. Not paragraphs and paragraphs of mush and :-((( crap. Girls do that to me sometimes - it seems extremely needy, because it is. Every time you type ... or a girl does ... you want the other person to feel sorry for you, cry, hug you, blow you kisses. It's needy, sorry. And usually doesn't have the intended effect.

                        Girl says she wanted to meet, albeit in a 'friendly' capacity. Not sure what that means, but she's still up for meeting. Meet, Let her do most of the talking, give her sexy bedroom eyes, attempt to fuck her. You MAY get rejected or Let's Just Be Friends speech at this point. Who cares. Meet, try something, succeed, or move on. Good luck

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bigslick2 View Post
                          Skills360, keep it simple man. Jesus. You see a girl you want to screw and you think you need to build the Millenium Falcon & play 4D chess & Napoleonic strategy and ... shit. You're overcomplicating matters. Also, getting sucked into the girl's frame. How she sees the situation is gospel, etc.

                          First off, obviously, NEVER verbalize the matrix (figure of speech of - never talk about seduction during seduction, ever, k?). Especially angry manosphere shit like BD's "monogamy doesn't work." Even BD doesn't say that to new women he's screwing, guaranteed. He may hint that he's not looking for monogamy at some point, not launch into an intellectual tirade.

                          There's literally no point to saying that to a woman, other than wanting to seem "smart" and "deep" and "experienced" -- but those are misguided ideas.

                          Also, get back to basics. Text less characters than her messages. Not paragraphs and paragraphs of mush and :-((( crap. Girls do that to me sometimes - it seems extremely needy, because it is. Every time you type ... or a girl does ... you want the other person to feel sorry for you, cry, hug you, blow you kisses. It's needy, sorry. And usually doesn't have the intended effect.

                          Girl says she wanted to meet, albeit in a 'friendly' capacity. Not sure what that means, but she's still up for meeting. Meet, Let her do most of the talking, give her sexy bedroom eyes, attempt to fuck her. You MAY get rejected or Let's Just Be Friends speech at this point. Who cares. Meet, try something, succeed, or move on. Good luck
                          The reason i did it with that girl is cause she is deep into "self help" she is "self help junkie".... Anyways, she thought i was mad at her and yelling at her i got her back and got her too meet, but she i moving to Miami... My texting style works, she even agree to blow jobs and shit...


                          Me: omg! you deleted your profile :-(, anyways, i know you are upset but, i want you to understand that English is my second language and if you go back to the texts is a bunch of "out of timing text" and "out of context text" and misunderstood context, i was discussing relationship dynamics and theories(i think you personalized it to me and you)... take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naleynXS7yo Anyways, it was nice too meet you and i learned a lot from you, thank you! i will search for another superduper, doubt i will find someone as awesome as you are, don't ever change :-( . I won't bother you anymore, but i just wanted to get that out, now that some time has passed and the emotions are not high... Muazzz! 5:05 PM


                          Then i plagiarized pure evil and say it was due to a "break up" bs, but a good excuse:

                          okupid: I wan busy hanging out and helping a friend yesterday and passed out early... Dear Felipe, You're an amazing soul and a great man. I am honored and thank you for your understanding me and seeing beauty in me, as it's nothing but your own greatness you see in me. I am not upset; maybe felt a bit misunderstood then, but, again, I always take responsibility for my own feelings and never hold others responsible. But thank you for mirroring all that back to me. Yes, we can connect at a friendly capacity first - in order not to let judgments cloud each other's genuine goodness. 10:03 AM

                          Me: awww!to be honest i don't blame you, that incident was a wake up call, after my break up i went a bit dark :-(... I'm in the process of trying to only fill my head with things that will help me in what I want out of life. Like, EVERYTHING. . the music I listen to, the movies I watch, the people in my life, the conversations I care to have, the degree to which i pay attention to current events, my sources for current events. . . I'm making a conscientious effort to fill my head with all the right things. My head is thus increasingly full of positive life enhancing self-selected input, that makes my natural responses to everything much more in line with how I want to be. That stuff i sent you was a bit negative and i lost the opportunity to meet a super duper girl in the process... :-( hope you are having a good day muahzZZ 4:48 PM

                          okupid: Dear Felipe, I understand you - fully, even more than you even understand yourself - only because this is the journey I've been on and still am. I don't just talk the talk of dating advices and rules and brain science... I walk my talk. For the last six years I've spend days, years in isolation, nights in meditation and tears, haven't left a modality to heal my emotional body fully - a.k.a. path of enlightenment spiritually speaking and emotional growth/maturity scientifically speaking. So when I feel angry or attract a jerk or someone's speech annoys me....I KNOW it's ME and I go deep down and do whatever it takes to heal that part of me. I say all this because I don't think you understand it all in depth. You say you turned "a bit dark" after you breakup. There's no such a thing... it only came up then, louder and more exacerbated, or, more accurately, that "dark" is exactly what made your relationship fall apart cuz I no longer be hidden... Nothing and no one can make you feel a certain way if you already are not feeling it deep down unconsciously... In fact, more "darkness" and negativity people bring out in me, the better. I welcome them and heal them. Isn't that the main goal of relationships? Or you thought it's security and intimacy?? Not from the spiritual perspective... 12:07 PM

                          okupid: Those dark aspects are also us, an inseparable part of us that are begging for our attention, acceptance, and love. That's he purpose of life, no? This is what every religion speaks of...Christ, Buddha...who not... That's callled integration is psychology... So, discover more and love those aspect of you as I daily continue to do so... I must say it works. I no longer have "bad" days...or lingering negative emotions... So the journey is definitely worth it. This is what I wanted to discuss with you when/if we met because I see your beautiful soul and the burning desire to break free... Isn't that why we connected???? At least, I know so... NO human being - especially an intimate potential partner connects with me if he is not really or aching for this... I'm all about it and will never change. My emotional freedom and happiness (aka spiritual growth) is the only reason I want to find my soulmate and create every beautiful thing in my life. 12:11 PM

                          okupid: And it is almost impossible - to my personal experience as well - to feel good and fill up your mind with positive thoughts when I'm really feeling like shit!!! The only way is to go towards it - turn inward - and feel those emotions fully... There are many good tools for it that have worked for me well. I'm glad to say that I've finally gotten to the point when I can switch my negative state at the snap of a finger - NO matter what shit I'm going through - as in right now, with my financial/career situation that's gotten me totally at the mercy of a chance... Before I would've broken down and panicked...but now...I don't care...I'm ok with whatever happens. Not to sound some fully enlightened master, but it's true. At times I don't even believe it myself... This shit works.12:22 PM
                          manana superduper okupid: But I reprogrammed my brain one belief/emotion/neuropathway at a time... so I feel I deserve to reap the benefits - hopefully soon... I admire your courage to be a seeker and to tap into your vulnerability - as hard as it might be for an alpha man like you... 12:23 PM

                          Me: wowow! super duper you are preaching it (kind of missed you and missed your preachings lol).. When i say a bit dark, is not misogynistic per se, i mean i would read women psychology and certain books like the one i mentioned before, by Michelle Langley, that paint a scary picture of women and society (though factual info. based on statistics), is good to be aware of it and move on, and not constantly for example re-visit... And better of filling your mind with positive type books such as "5 languages of love" etc... But i think you got my point... 12:31 PM
                          Me: On a lighter not you have kizomba tonight have fun! :-) 12:44 PM



                          after all that she was back and wanted to meet and talking about bjs, sex, and she asked me out...(too much text blocks to post, she is a bit eccentric)

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