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  • #46
    Originally posted by Logic&Reason View Post

    I've said causation/correlation is hard to determine here.

    But its not confirmation bias, I personally do fine online. Its cold hard numbers: online game has been significantly detrimental to the socialization of a generation of guys, as the girls from that generation use online game to skip over interacting with guys their age onto older and more successful guys. Like me. Like you.

    Its been GREAT for me, being an older successful guy. This is probably the best time ever to be an older guy gaming. This has nothing to do with ME, this has to do with the best use of PU time for young men.
    i had a young student that got 1 match online, fuck her and then she ghosted (i posted the lay report here, but he use all my texting lines, so she fought it was me in his body).... After that he never match or got laid online again, but in real life game killed it... So you do have a point, when it comes to younger guys.... But the way it was presented came out lazy, bias and with agenda.....

    Glad everything is clarified....

    I do agree a young dude should start with 17-23

    Day game
    night street game
    a bit of online to supplement while doing the other 2 mainly...
    parties and club game...

    all of them combined which is what most of us did....But to be honest again, young guys now a days are pretty much fucked, unless they get the inner desired to get good with women (i don't see this anymore).... Most young guys rather go into anit pua, sexual politics and all this manosphere pupu...

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    • Logic&Reason

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      "But the way it was presented came out lazy, bias and with agenda....."

      Yeah not my finest work.

      There's a bit of an agenda there too though, I've admitted, as I've always seen online as a supplement at best, and as harmful to a guy's social development if its his sole game. Its nice (though unfortunate) having my hypothesis validated by the results of a generation of the online game experiment. Obviously its just one factor in a greater systematic shift, but its got the top slot.

  • #47
    Originally posted by Skills360 View Post
    online is just another lead source, blitzes and rotation from online is not necessary, you are over complicating it, is just another lead source
    I was saying for young dudes who are not getting laid and want to start it right.
    Isn't that the point, guys who cannot get laid without their phones?

    There's no over-complication here, because IMO this should be the core of online for new guys: blitz > fuck > fuck again > relationship > repeat with a new woman
    If you already have a level of experience with seduction and relationships, of course you can fool around as much as you want.

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    • #48
      This is more plates more dates (former sedfast member boytoy, gll former student used to post here, screener).... He is spinning it as a positive similar to what logic is saying:

      -how more guys are weak, beta no game, scare....

      - how this help guys that do cold approach




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      • Logic&Reason

        Logic&Reason

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        Yeah it sets up a boom economy for young guys who game offline. Oil rush time right now.

        My next guess is that there will be a resurgence in cold approach game within the next 3 years. Possibly outside the existing PU scene, probably from at least a slightly different type of angle than we've seen, from some younger guys with their own takes on it in relation to the Generation Z and younger sexual marketplace. With the "fuck you old guys, we're doing it OUR way" attitude that pioneering young men always come with.

        There will be a set of young dudes who still want to fuck. Pre-online, PU was always niche like this, sex with multiple women was reserved for the exceptional. They'll step up and figure it out. They're not being handed the super easy online landscape the last generation lucked into, they'll step up because they have to to get what they want.

    • #49
      I don't do online "game," but the two girls I've met who started talking about Bumble have been some of the least feminine, most unattractive girls I've ever encountered.

      I suspect it is because this app directs women to go against their nature. Women are not supposed to initiate anything.

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      • #50
        Originally posted by Bismarck View Post
        I don't do online "game," but the two girls I've met who started talking about Bumble have been some of the least feminine, most unattractive girls I've ever encountered.

        I suspect it is because this app directs women to go against their nature. Women are not supposed to initiate anything.


        since you don't do "online dating" and you only met 2 women out of millions that use bumble your assesment and reasoning is incorrect...


        In my area bumble has the most attractive women of all dating sites and best, usually professional women with the life together...

        The reason why bumble appeal to women a lot is cause women want to be the buyers on dating sites...

        when they are in other dating sites were guys are allow to innitiate the get bombarded with 100s or 1000s of request from guys they don't care for..

        You guys keep going with your little campaign against online, will get you very far in 2019, this is from a cold approacher that has done cold approach none stop for almost 30 years now


        p.s. in other dating sites women innitate as well if they like you women favorite opener is: "hey there" or just a emoji... is not like they open like we open...
        Last edited by Skills360; 05-18-2019, 06:38 PM. Reason: not over but almost

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        • #51
          Originally posted by Skills360 View Post



          since you don't do "online dating" and you only met 2 women out of millions that use bumble your assesment and reasoning is incorrect...


          In my area bumble has the most attractive women of all dating sites and best, usually professional women with the life together...

          The reason why bumble appeal to women a lot is cause women want to be the buyers on dating sites...

          when they are in other dating sites were guys are allow to innitiate the get bombarded with 100s or 1000s of request from guys they don't care for..

          You guys keep going with your little campaign against online, will get you very far in 2019, this is from a cold approacher that has done cold approach none stop for over 30 years now


          p.s. in other dating sites women innitate as well if they like you women favorite opener is: "hey there" or just a emoji... is not like they open like we open...
          My experience with bumble dates back a year, but it was positive, and I agree with everything you say, Skills.

          I very quickly matched with an attractive, professional woman who has her shit together. Still dating a year later.

          I am at a loss to explain why there is this constant, ill-informed campaign of misinformation against online from the cold approach people. Seems to me that a rational person would shrug and say ďdifferent strokes for different folksĒ, and just move on. But no.

          Probably best to just ignore the haters, and focus on helping those who are interested.

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          • Logic&Reason

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            Online game ended a certain quality of the PU conversation. For years on MASF it was labeled "not real game" by the originators of the scene like Formhandle in order to maintain the mastery-minded conversation about game the entire scene was built upon, until he just stopped caring, at which point a few posters went on a campaign to promote online game as the ideal and the PU conversation that had existed for a decade pretty much ended. MASF was dead within 2 years as the conversation shifted to ideological defense and promotion instead of a scientific-minded approach to the completeness of game.

            This last comment was a drive-by. But many of the concerns and observations about online game are legit and correct.

          • Skills360

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            The online discussion have ended and barely discussed if any unless is noise by sarge or not needed uncalibrated and unnecessary posturing to the point that they keep the online conversations going instead of posting cold approach relevant shit, this is not 2000 this is 2019 were you ask women Netflix or clubs, 99 % will choose Netflix

          • Logic&Reason

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            He said "he's at a loss to why." That's the why, that's where it all comes from. People still want that conversation back. Not sure it can happen, perhaps this new message board will provide the place where the discussion can resume with all this bullshit like what we're doing right now.

        • #52
          Originally posted by No More Mr Nice Guy View Post

          I am at a loss to explain why there is this constant, ill-informed campaign of misinformation against online from the cold approach people.
          Because 99% of the time this is what online game is:

          https://www.playingfire.com/super-fast-tinder-lr/
          https://www.playingfire.com/young-eu...its-tinder-lr/
          https://www.playingfire.com/bubble-b...irl-tinder-lr/
          https://www.playingfire.com/big-booty-tinder-lr/

          its fucking hooking up. It's a disgrace to master seducers, who put in years of hard work, crushing limiting beliefs and their comfort zone, through sheer dedication and work to craft their current skillsets, to put this sort of thing in the same category as "game."

          it simply rubs them the wrong way to call this "game."

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          • #53
            Originally posted by Velasco View Post

            Because 99% of the time this is what online game is:

            https://www.playingfire.com/super-fast-tinder-lr/
            https://www.playingfire.com/young-eu...its-tinder-lr/
            https://www.playingfire.com/bubble-b...irl-tinder-lr/
            https://www.playingfire.com/big-booty-tinder-lr/

            its fucking hooking up. It's a disgrace to master seducers, who put in years of hard work, crushing limiting beliefs and their comfort zone, through sheer dedication and work to craft their current skillsets, to put this sort of thing in the same category as "game."

            it simply rubs them the wrong way to call this "game."
            incorrect, none of what i just read matches my experience... That dude is paying for the site(tinder plus), and he has done it soooo much that he has master it, that is an example of a "tinder guru"....


            I can post couple of lay reports from cold approach just like that, from many posters here.... And you could say "this is cold approach like"

            In fact there were doing similar campaign just like that to cold approachers "drunk/drug women in clubs at the end of the night" no game...

            i mean you guys can keep going with all this none sense, but i will keep calling it as it is... noise, postiuing, kj and the likes...

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            • Logic&Reason

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              Which is why there's a necessity for a forum with NO ONLINE GAME. Its a pointless time wasting drama fest when people can't agree on the sport being played, you end up with crap posts like all of these today in this thread including mine where game isn't even discussed and people battle over frames and ideology.

            • Skills360

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              For me i want to learn everything online, social circle ______ fill in the blank game.... I don't care what it is, the problem is people have no self control, or everybody got to be in group thinking (boring as shit).... When this forum was all different type of posters, and all different game types, all types of polarization it was when the forum was at it best(no polarization is not impulse retardeness).... When everybody got over sensitive (similar to what happen recently with popcorn) and everybody started ganging in groups, and the moderators went clueless... That was the end of sedfast, i saw it a mile away...0 to do with online gaming

            • Velasco

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              "Which is why there's a necessity for a forum with NO ONLINE GAME"

              4 days left.

          • #54
            OK, as a 45 year old banging girls that are 18 from Tinder, online game doesn't work. Or perhaps it isn't "good enough", because there is the romanticized idea of walking into The Saddle Ranch and asking a woman who lies more. The answer is: I lie more. Because I know how to use online game.

            The cluelessness in you is so ingrained that I think it is impossible to fix.

            I am not even advocating online game. It is just that seeing how you want the blinders pulled, you can fucking have it.

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            • Grodmeister General
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              saddleranch is my shit, ive gotten quality women from the one in hollywood(where i first met colgate and did 2 infields in front of him in there ) and the lesser popular one in valencia ! I went indirect too!!!!!

            • Logic&Reason

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              There's "how to cold approach" and then there's the infinite level of finesse of the technicals. Yeah you can learn "how to play basketball" to the point of completing a game in a year or two, but that's a long ways away from NBA technicality.

              When they talk about their more detailed technicalities here and other places, they're always met with "I don't believe any of this shit even matters" and various stuff like that. Its annoying. They just want to be able to talk about their game without having to defend it all the time. Its that simple I think.

            • COCPORN

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              It is flabbergasting that you think I am bad at cold approach.

          • #55
            Bumble works better in bigger cities. Iíve been using it successfully in London, Berlin and Paris. Many women on Bumble are better looking and better educated and more cultured than on Tinder. Maybe because the latter is more mainstream.

            Bumbleís strength is also its weakness. Only about a third of all women I match with actually write a message. On the one hand, women want to feel strong (empowered) by initiating the interaction. On the other hand, many of them are too shy or lazy to really make the first move.

            As Skills360 mentioned here, the most popular opener is ĽHię or just an emoji. I find this quite disappointing and send them a polite good-bye message, unless I have the feeling, they donít speak the language of the country well. Iím looking for certain qualities in women and decided not to spend time online chatting with people who have duck-face photos, cutify their photos or over-use emojis. With this filter applied, I have less interactions with women from Bumble and Tinder, but the ones I have are more successful.

            When people say, online game is no real game, thatís ok and I donít really care. Cold approach is much harder and it is a wider field, thatís for sure. The skills one needs are different. It might be easier for someone who is good at cold approaching, to be successful online. Easier than the other way around. When interacting with a woman irl, it doesnít matter so much anymore if one met her online or in a bookstore.

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            • #56


              Bumbleís strength is also its weakness. Only about a third of all women I match with actually write a message. On the one hand, women want to feel strong (empowered) by initiating the interaction. On the other hand, many of them are too shy or lazy to really make the first move.
              no my experience out 5 matches only 1 does not write...Actually better than other sites

              As Skills360 mentioned here, the most popular opener is ĽHię or just an emoji. I find this quite disappointing and send them a polite good-bye message, unless I have the feeling, they donít speak the language of the country well. Iím looking for certain qualities in women and decided not to spend time online chatting with people who have duck-face photos, cutify their photos or over-use emojis. With this filter applied, I have less interactions with women from Bumble and Tinder, but the ones I have are more successful.
              See this is were some tactics/technicals/game is needed.... I learned from allmyfriendsaredead to say "i hoped we matched" then i go into COCPORN ready for your test routine, but i change to bd qualifying questions...


              When people say, online game is no real game, thatís ok and I donít really care. Cold approach is much harder and it is a wider field, thatís for sure. The skills one needs are different. It might be easier for someone who is good at cold approaching, to be successful online. Easier than the other way around. When interacting with a woman irl, it doesnít matter so much anymore if one met her online or in a bookstore.

              If it was not game how a 45 year old such as cocporn is banging 18 year olds???? Free?

              my barber gets laid of instagram.... Listen dude whatever you can leverage to get laid with girls of choice is fine with me...

              These arguments are beyond retarded...

              Look at your example of bad so call game "polite goodby message" this is an example of really bad game and lack of understanding of dynamics...

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Skills360 View Post

                If it was not game how a 45 year old such as cocporn is banging 18 year olds???? Free?

                my barber gets laid of instagram.... Listen dude whatever you can leverage to get laid with girls of choice is fine with me...

                These arguments are beyond retarded...

                Look at your example of bad so call game "polite goodby message" this is an example of really bad game and lack of understanding of dynamics...
                Why so angry?

                I do what I do and I don't care if others say online game is not game. Game is what gets me results and online is part of this. Btw, Cocpornís book helped me a lot to set up a gameplan for tinder and Bumble.

                A polite good-bye message is no game, it is a good-bye.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Delenclos View Post

                  Why so angry?

                  I do what I do and I don't care if others say online game is not game. Game is what gets me results and online is part of this. Btw, Cocpornís book helped me a lot to set up a gameplan for tinder and Bumble.

                  A polite good-bye message is no game, it is a good-bye.
                  where was i angry? Are you psychic to guesstimate moods, i was making a comment on the post, are you this sensitive dude? ... I was just helping you with the not burning leads due to lack of understanding, and i gave you a suggestion on what to respond... And i am telling the goodby shit is bad game...

                  Just say: hi i hoped we matched, and then run cocporn or whatever method...

                  to discard women cause they did not game you like you game women is silly and bad game

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                  • #59
                    Your choice of word came over as angry. Maybe thatís just the way you talk. Itís fine any way.

                    Thanks for your advice. My approach is a different one though. Iím only interested in women with a certain kind of energy, view of the world, style, etc.

                    Online, I need to filter properly to find them. Iím using Tinder, OKC and Bumble in these days. OKC works best. First I filter out women I find physically unattractive. I just left-swipe them. Then I say good-bye to the ones I find boring, judging from the first message exchange. If I wanted to chat with or meet every woman I match with, I would have to make it a full-time job. Thatís why filtering is important. Abundance is required of course. Without enough matches, this wouldnít work, because there would be nothing left after filtering.

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