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  • It seems all free apps only work if you just newly sign in or just pay...

    This is the trend i notice:

    1.- I join a free dating app...(pof, okkupid, tinder, bumble)

    2.- become a true pimp (tons of matches, tons of hotties, i go "wowow online is the shit"

    3.- after the initial nre the apps are doing a 360 is like i am in invisible, the hotties dissapeared, not matches....(after you just joined that is)..

    4.- if i pay back to step 2....


    ^ so it seems as of march 2018 the only way to actually make online work is to pay... Thoughts! Remember they all have the same owner...
    Last edited by Skills360; 03-13-2018, 03:46 AM.
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  • #2
    With POF, at least, I find it’s better to only keep my profile visible for a week or so, and then hide it again for a few weeks.

    I always get renewed interest when I unhide, and I’ve never paid.

    My theory is that you become “old news” and women stop noticing your profile if they always see it.

    You go to war with the women you have, not the ones you wish to have.
    -Ronald Dumsfeld

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    • #3
      Originally posted by No More Mr Nice Guy View Post
      With POF, at least, I find it’s better to only keep my profile visible for a week or so, and then hide it again for a few weeks.

      I always get renewed interest when I unhide, and I’ve never paid.

      My theory is that you become “old news” and women stop noticing your profile if they always see it.
      ^ yes (make sense and will field test, thank you brother), i also notice in the bumble and tinder similar if i do not swipe for couple of days then swipe success....

      cocporn in his books talks about recycling (deleting and then make a new account), but i really did not want to keep doing this...But i totally love your idea...
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      • #4
        It also seems to help to have a new main photo when you unhide.

        I think the perception is “oh, a new guy”, instead of “oh, him again”
        You go to war with the women you have, not the ones you wish to have.
        -Ronald Dumsfeld

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        • #5
          Guys this is obvious stuff if you are using online APPS.

          Lol think a bit... These guys are huge companies that pay people a shit ton of money to figure out how they can use all of the usual GAME tactics and behavior/persuasion (read job posting below) stuff to get you to send MORE time on the app and eventually SPEND MONEY

          These guys have teams of people that spend all day thinking about this stuff and are paid for it...

          See the job post below for just an idea of one person that is working at one of these places and btw they are just getting started with this kind of thing (notice it's their first hire in this space lol)...

          Also even though the title is SENIOR this is really a middle-management position within a huge organization b/c Tinder is owned by another corp that owns a shit ton of companies: http://iac.com/brands

          hmmmm and they are all online companies that are all about maximizing user time spent and ultimately maximizing revenue.

          So let's pretend that there are maybe a few ways to outsmart the R&D budget of tinder and the rest...

          "Appear like new" strategies work for a bit because they actually increase overall engagement on the platform because it's a new shiny thing for girls to look at so they spend a bit extra time and add a bit more to the bottom line.

          I would assume any other outsize success is because you are aligned with the revenue incentive, not because you are somehow overcoming it. unless you've got some specific hack and the please spill the beans lol

          This is why new apps are usually gold mines like Tinder was from 5 years back when they first started (when they were basically paying sororities to get their sisters on the thing) through the first 2-3 years (when it wasn't mainstream and still a part of SS and girls were telling their friends about it)

          Then they moved the platform from basic to revenue with a shit ton of venture money then acquisition money and enough time to get paid features implemented and retire the old matching algos and whoops all of a sudden if you're not paying you are really just getting all kinds of tricks thrown at you to become a paying user...

          Also I'm assuming lots of guys are paying because even a lot of cats here are paying the subscription fee and buying other "a la carte" products so I can only imagine what the uneducated masses are paying in to these things in hopes of lucking in to some strange lol

          https://www.gotinder.com/jobs/

          Senior Product Manager - Pricing & Yield

          at Tinder (View all jobs) Los Angeles



          Tinder brings people together. With tens of millions of users and a presence in every country on earth, our reach is expansive—and rapidly growing. Your work here can change the world, and we’re just getting started. Tinder is building our record breaking revenue team and we are looking to hire our first Pricing & Yield lead. We are boldly going where no one has gone before, and are looking for an enterprising commander to help steer the ship.
          In this role you will:
          • You will be a key member of the record breaking Revenue team at Tinder (we reached #1 top grossing app in 2017!) & own our global pricing strategies.
          • Define our pricing value. Create pricing strategies to maximize revenue and yield management for our subscription products (Tinder Gold & Tinder Plus), a la carte products (Super Like & Boost), and advertising.
          • Work with Finance team to develop revenue strategies and quarterly forecasts that will directly impact how we prioritize our roadmap and the revenue products that we build.
          • Work with individual product owners on Revenue team to build financial models for their products during ideation phase, with a focus on Pricing, Cross-Selling, and increasing ARPU.
          • This role will report into the Director of Product, Revenue and have responsibilities that are highly cross-functional, working with the Executive team, Product, Product Marketing and Finance.


          We're looking for:
          • A deep passion for pricing strategies and yield management.
          • In Data We Trust: you should love statistics, data, pricing theory, and topics like the Big Mac Index.
          • Bachelor’s degree; MA, or PhD preferred in Statistics, Finance, or Economics.
          • Deep understanding of human psychology and user behavior as it relates to Pricing.
          • Expert at stakeholder management, communication, coordination, and collaboration across many teams with shifting priorities.


          As part of our team, you’ll enjoy:
          • The hustle of a startup with the impact of a global business
          • Tremendous opportunity to solve some of the industry’s most exciting problems
          • Working with an extraordinary team of smart, creative, fun and highly motivated people
          • Comprehensive health coverage, competitive salary, 401(k) match and meaningful equity
          • Unlimited vacation and flexible working hours
          • Daily catered lunches, endless supply of refreshments, basketball court, fitness classes and social events
          • Modern, uplifting work environment in an ideal location





          I vote we get PE to apply to one of these things and get some actual intel on how the back end of these things works

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          • Skills360

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            Black caesar yes 10000% and what you wrote is what i suspected cause it does not really make sense i am the same guy, the same looks, the same profile.... So a change in approach when it comes to pics and profile is definitely no the problem... The problem is to figure out how to get around the system, so dating strategy is more like becoming a programming strategy vs seduction approach lololol.... Good news is that i have notice that women, clubs etc... attitudes changing more back to normal (pre-apps)

        • #6
          There is a perpetual loop where free things gradually turn to shit, at which point new free things will start to emerge and take over the market. (Reminds me of when Altavista became banner hell, and google was born.)

          https://alternativeto.net/software/badoo/
          https://alternativeto.net/software/okcupid/
          https://alternativeto.net/software/tinder/
          https://alternativeto.net/software/bumble/
          https://www.siteslike.com/similar/okcupid.com
          http://www.similarpages.com/alternat...o/okcupid.com?
          http://www.moreofit.com/similar-to/w..._Like_Okcupid/

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          • #7
            Originally posted by kijjjji View Post
            There is a perpetual loop where free things gradually turn to shit, at which point new free things will start to emerge and take over the market. (Reminds me of when Altavista became banner hell, and google was born.)

            https://alternativeto.net/software/badoo/
            https://alternativeto.net/software/okcupid/
            https://alternativeto.net/software/tinder/
            https://alternativeto.net/software/bumble/
            https://www.siteslike.com/similar/okcupid.com
            http://www.similarpages.com/alternat...o/okcupid.com?
            http://www.moreofit.com/similar-to/w..._Like_Okcupid/
            There is a perpetual loop of you never posting anything else than links and abstract BS also.

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            • #8
              Is anyone else having problem with Tinder? I've not had a decent match in years, even whilst paying the suscription for Tinder Gold. With all these new features, super likes, easy picks and boost options, it seems to me that unless you are spending a ton of money to get viewed, you aren't going to appear enough to get any matches.

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              • Skills360

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                try bumble, i still get matches on tinder the quality is 7, bumble 8 plus quality...

            • #9
              I have used Bumble too. I only ever match black or Asian girls and I don't like either. I end up getting frustrated and just delete both of them, but I want to make it work.

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              • #10
                Originally posted by hey_lover View Post
                I have used Bumble too. I only ever match black or Asian girls and I don't like either. I end up getting frustrated and just delete both of them, but I want to make it work.
                Hey lover you need to be working as many apps as possible, i work minimum 4 when active

                so i work tinder, bumble, pof(nasty quality, but a few hot girls too), okkupid

                sign up in as many apps you can as possible do not focus on one app...(but i love bumble)

                and remember to do this: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/on...-online-dating
                Sexting, my unique natural game, aggressive dance floor seductions, 15-20 minutes hook ups in clubs. Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a club type environment, check out my blog and youtube clubbing channel:

                www.dancefloorseduction.com









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                • #11
                  I am using OKCupid as well. So currently running 3. I used to use POF before but it was dodgy. Girls profiles would randomly disappear in mysterious ways. Did a Google search and turned out there were tons of fake profiles on there. Haven't had any success on OKC either. I've not put any effort into a written profile on OKC. Just had a short line saying I was laid back, adventurous and sensual, like on Tinder and Bumble.

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by hey_lover View Post
                    I am using OKCupid as well. So currently running 3. I used to use POF before but it was dodgy. Girls profiles would randomly disappear in mysterious ways. Did a Google search and turned out there were tons of fake profiles on there. Haven't had any success on OKC either. I've not put any effort into a written profile on OKC. Just had a short line saying I was laid back, adventurous and sensual, like on Tinder and Bumble.
                    okc only sees you if you match, so is basically like a swipping app...


                    Again try to be on as many of them as possible... Also you should be still doing regular game...(specially night game).... Never had what you experiencing in pof (yes a lot of dogs, but there are some gems in there too)
                    Sexting, my unique natural game, aggressive dance floor seductions, 15-20 minutes hook ups in clubs. Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a club type environment, check out my blog and youtube clubbing channel:

                    www.dancefloorseduction.com









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