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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by Circulator View Post
    Do you seriously not know what he means by a fruitful conversation?

    I've noticed a pattern where you ask for advice and then argue about it. Almost like you're playing dumb.
    I ask for advice and then ask for clarity yeah, never argue.

    Like if someone says "you gotta lead" and I say "ok, but I tried that with this one girl and she shut down"

    That's not arguing, that's presenting a fact that needs reconciliation!

    Should I be more direct? Should I ask "ok, but what about this one time, what's that about?"

    Because I'm noticing a pattern where I'm misunderstood and I need to fix that ASAP so pl;ease, help me.

    as for fruitful conversation, I'm not sure exactly what he means.

    I can have conversations where I make people smile and laugh and like talking to me, but I feel empty inside because it's one sided.

    I'm assuming he means a conversation where we BOTH get something out of it. If that is the case, the answer is a loud NO because I can only give people what they want and never get what I want.

    With the milf I recently f*cked up with, I had great conversations with her but it was all one sided.

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  • Circulator
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    Do you seriously not know what he means by a fruitful conversation?

    I've noticed a pattern where you ask for advice and then argue about it. Almost like you're playing dumb.

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by Circulator View Post
    COCPORN, don't waste your time with this guy. He will troll you into a circular debate. It's all he's here for.
    Wtf???

    I've been applying your guys advice and learning from what I can. I've made progress and I try to be respectful at all times. Where is this coming from??

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  • Circulator
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    COCPORN, don't waste your time with this guy. He will troll you into a circular debate. It's all he's here for.

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by COCPORN View Post
    My first thought is:

    It must be devastating to keep a daygame journal of your endeavors of 2 minute interactions with married women that lead nowhere for obvious reasons. It will make your pencil hand sore for when you need to use it later.

    My first question:

    Do you have the ability to carry a fruitful conversation in any venue?
    Lol. You're funny!


    Define "fruitful".

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  • COCPORN
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    Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
    I wasn't but she was definitely defensive.

    So... thoughts?
    My first thought is:

    It must be devastating to keep a daygame journal of your endeavors of 2 minute interactions with married women that lead nowhere for obvious reasons. It will make your pencil hand sore for when you need to use it later.

    My first question:

    Do you have the ability to carry a fruitful conversation in any venue?

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by Supernova View Post
    Not sure how you are going about this, but a decision to calibrate while or after is non-existent.

    You can analyze at both times, however your mind is always figuring this shit out.

    I suggest to others to throw themselves into as many fucked up approach situations as possible (normal also), but you do this for two reasons
    1.) Large amounts of references experiences and situations for your mind to learn how to better adapt to and
    2.) You show yourself that you can handle anything.

    Great job utilizing this forum and everyone here with all of the posts.
    Thanks man. I'm learning a lot.

    In fact, next week I'm going back to direct approaches. Indirect feels all kinds of wrong to me.

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  • Supernova
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    Not sure how you are going about this, but a decision to calibrate while or after is non-existent.

    You can analyze at both times, however your mind is always figuring this shit out.

    I suggest to others to throw themselves into as many fucked up approach situations as possible (normal also), but you do this for two reasons
    1.) Large amounts of references experiences and situations for your mind to learn how to better adapt to and
    2.) You show yourself that you can handle anything.

    Great job utilizing this forum and everyone here with all of the posts.

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  • SargeMaximus
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    No opportunities to try your suggestion today bazoom.

    I'm starting to think indirect is just too damn limiting. It's like I have to find a girl, then hover, then hope she doesn't walk away, then say something about the environment, I mean, what part of this is masculine again?

    I was reading on here how being masculine is imposing your will on the world, yet most of the "game" suggestions I've been getting lately are seemingly "follow the woman" tactics. Am I missing something?

    I'm so confused right now.

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by bazoom View Post
    - next to girl staring at shelf and you are looking at that shelf too, inspecting the products they have (dont have to grab them).. after few secs, open with "mmm so difficult" / "too many options" and socialize a little bit

    Not best hover, but it's a natural conv starter IMO
    I'll try it tomorrow, thanks.

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  • bazoom
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    - next to girl staring at shelf and you are looking at that shelf too, inspecting the products they have (dont have to grab them).. after few secs, open with "mmm so difficult" / "too many options" and socialize a little bit

    Not best hover, but it's a natural conv starter IMO

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Originally posted by Stargazer View Post
    Funny you say that, cause I think the point of it is to make the girl feel like the stalker/predator. I find it fun to wiggle my ass in front of girls while pretending I don't know what I am doing.
    Lol, that's crazy.

    It certainly feels better, but it's harder, especially in grocery stores, because by the time you've "hovered" the girl may be gone.

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  • Stargazer
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    Funny you say that, cause I think the point of it is to make the girl feel like the stalker/predator. I find it fun to wiggle my ass in front of girls while pretending I don't know what I am doing.

    Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
    Today I tried to implement hovering. It's hard because it puts the woman as the central focus and you naturally become the orbiter.

    to be honest, I feel like hovering is a lot like stalking.[...]

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  • SargeMaximus
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    Today I tried to implement hovering. It's hard because it puts the woman as the central focus and you naturally become the orbiter.

    to be honest, I feel like hovering is a lot like stalking.

    So what happened was I was entering the grocery store and I saw this gorgeous woman walking. I made note of her body and she walked over to grab a basket (just like me). When I was sure she saw me, I was about to approach but she tore off into an aisle (I wasn't going even remotely that way) so I decided to keep going. Then, suddenly, she comes out of the aisle and is about to cross my path. So I say "hello" but she just cuts in front of me and walks off. :/

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  • SargeMaximus
    started a topic Rookie Daygaming

    Rookie Daygaming

    Hey guys, this is gonna be my daygame journal. I'd love feedback on this stuff even if it's just 1 approach because 1 approach times 100 is 100 approaches and instead of do 100 approaches, then calibrate, I'd rather calibrate as I go.


    So today I hit the old sticking point of not being able to talk to girls when other people were around. I need some kind of hack (or crack) to get past this because I missed out on some really cute girls today.

    Having said that, I did approach 1 girl. She was walking along and I came from behind and said "hi"

    Her: "Hi"

    Me: What's up?

    Her: Nothing, just looking for a book.

    Me: Oh cool, what kind of book?

    Her: My husband's looking for it

    Me: Oh *bring finger to lips for "Shh!" expression* what kind of books do you like?

    Her: *crosses arms* I don't know.

    Me: *chuckle* ok, take care.

    That was it.

    So my main goal if you will is to have a completely seamless conversation which is normal, non gamey, and real with the girl. But obviously I need to get her to open up and not take things too seriously.

    I wasn't but she was definitely defensive.

    So... thoughts?
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