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  • Girl online I been talking with called my bluff today:

    me: stop being so cute, Iím trying to move on

    her: lol ok

    bruh

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    • Sarge we go in circles...

      follow a structure (there are millions bd, kant, cocporn, dude etc... I really like mine but i am biased and is taken from all of them). you keep freestyling all the time

      while showing your personality

      keep a straight line....

      you still doing seduction flirting, sexual inunindos, intent etc...

      If you pitch meet early like some gurus advocate you need to do large numbers

      my style is more of seduction while texting (but i don't know if you can pull it off, just go for large numbers, and game at the meet)

      the close is a meet location...


      I totally know what you were doing following ijjjji, but ijjji stuff if i remember he still flirts, you were not flirting you were talking video games.. (you know i have a million live convos all over the place so you can get ideas)


      P.s. Thanks for the videos, please don't upload more till i finish does 3


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      • SargeMaximus

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        Thanks Skills. Tbh, I was following your style but then you said I had to banter, so that's why I talked about video games because it is bantering (unless I don't understand what you mean by banter, which is likely). But I agree, needs to be more straight line. In sales I don't banter at all, I'm strictly ABC (Always Be Closing) and go in a straight line to either the close or me leaving. No in between which I feel like banter is. It's in between and not on straight line as you also noticed.

        So yeah, I'ma try more straight line but I'm also going to mix some of Todd game (thanks for those videos) because he uses a LOT of resistance to the girl (which I don't do, I'm straight line without resistance) but the problem will be, like the example above, if I say "stop being so cute" and she will take me literally because she's not into me (that girl was super fat but I thought she was hot. Very rare, usually I like fit and toned women with big hips and boobs but this girl looked amazing despite her weight. Point I'm trying to make is she wasn't a 10 so her not being interested was more from lack of verbals than her being out of my league)

        Another thing I need to work on is social status and how to maintain it as high. Todd says not to try and keep it high because that proves low status, but I feel like I just default to low status unless I actively manage it. What's the solution there?

        And yeah, no problem. Let me know when you're ready for more.

    • sarge i said in the CONTEXT, CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT OF

      question then question then question then question...

      I told you, same as cosy, not to bombard her with questions gosh! so question banter question... But the banter needs to have a goal, while showing your personality... if you read my million of text is not to imitate but you can sense how even though i go onto topics, they are mainly relationship, dating, sex topics... While i show my own weird/crazy/funny personality....

      but see i am talking gender topics etc... no video games...


      You can still talk video games

      but keep it seduction.... like don king kong i would misrepresent with my dick get me (but i am not saying to do this, i do that cause is congruent with my funny sexual style).... My point being yes show your personality but with a goal in mind...

      The goal is: spark her curiosity of who is this dude

      this dude is different

      i need to meet this dude

      if i meet him is to see if i can fuck him or date him or whatever

      etc.... get me?


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      • I think I get it skills but I'm having trouble with it. Here's a convo from today that went dead. She messaged me fist:



        Her:
        ďSAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"

        ...I thought thatíd be better than ďwhatís up.Ē

        Me:
        Yeah cause I havenít heard that one before... howís your day going name?

        Her:
        I figured. Itís going well, howís yours?

        Me:
        Well you still get points for messaging first. Most girls are starfishes online. You seem quite daring

        Her:
        Starfishes Hahahaha

        Me:
        Yeah itís an epidemic. So your profile says your in [city]. You know Iím in [city] right?

        Her:
        Iím aware. Iím actively trying not to speak with people who are local. Too small a town.

        Me:
        I can relate. Grew up in a small town. But if youíre just looking for a chat buddy perhaps try a chat room? Or do you intend to drive all the way to [my city] should we decide to meet someday?

        Her:
        Itís not that far away. And yes, should I find someone Iíd like to spend time with I would come to visit and be happy to have them visit me in the mountains also. I really like my alone time so I prefer to see someone on a not so full time basis.

        Me:
        I hear you, itís good to have alone time. You seem pretty adventurous tho, have you travelled much?

        Her:
        I have, yes. I love to travel. Thereís so many places I havenít been to but will in the future. Living in [city] is quite expensive so Iím not travelling as much as I would like.

        Me:
        Yeah? Where would you go if you won the lottery and how long would you stay?

        Her:
        Italy. Forever. Make wine and write books in a tiny little wooden house that overlooked some water. Have a little old bicycle and bike down to the market for ingredients for some elaborate meal Iíd make myself for dinner each night.

        Her:
        Very good question.

        Me:
        Yeah Italy could be fun. Beaches, warm Mediterranean weather. Iíd prolly just visit and live in Brazil tho. Have you been to Italy before?

        Her:
        No but Iíve been obsessed with Italy since I was a little girl. Always wanted to go. Brazil has some more issues than Iíd prefer to handle in my young retirement, so Italy for me haha.

        Me:
        Fair enough. Where all have you traveled then?

        Her:
        Alot across the states, Mexico, Australia and nz

        Her:
        What about you?

        Me:
        Only us for me but all over. I think Florida and California redwoods are my favourite climates but nothing beats New York City. Just the whole vibe and how big it is. Makes [my city] look like a small town. Loved it there. What was your favourites?


        I can see how I asked too many questions for sure and didn't banter enough, but again I don't get what I'm driving towards here. Like a sexual encounter you say, so should I don't get how to talk with that goal in mind if that makes sense.

        Also, here I was trying to be like Todd and be more challenging and put myself as higher status but it just felt dickish and I felt bad for the girl. Like I was being mean so I think that's why I went back into standard format. I got uncomfortable being mean to her.

        Anyhow, I clearly need more work but as it stands I don't understand because you say show her my personality and yet my personality isn't like this and is the way I normally talk, which you say doesn't work, so I feel kinda damned if I do, damned if I don't if that makes sense.

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        • SargeMaximus

          "I can see how I asked too many questions for sure"

          uhhh ya think?

          "Me:
          I can relate. Grew up in a small town. But if youíre just looking for a chat buddy perhaps try a chat room? Or do you intend to drive all the way to [my city] should we decide to meet someday?

          Her:
          Itís not that far away. And yes, should I find someone Iíd like to spend time with I would come to visit and be happy to have them visit me in the mountains also. I really like my alone time so I prefer to see someone on a not so full time basis."

          After this part, where she's not only qualified herself to you, but also made it clear she's down for a Fuckbuddy relationship (or did you not catch that part?) then get the number. So for example to her text, I'd reply something like:

          "cool. you know, I think I might just know someone who would be perfect for what you're looking for. yeah. he's a pretty laid back guy. LOVES girls who message him first on [dating app your using]. send me your number...and maybe he'll text you later tonight

          Less is more, my friend. That's the purpose of online dating....get the number...not ask 20 questions lol (at least that's what I think...never tried online dating myself)...Totally incongruent with your "I'm not looking for a chat buddy" frame.

          There's plenty of time to banter, get to know her, run the 3 keys and present your "higher status" self on the actual meetup.

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          • Skills360

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            yeah at this point move her offline... Maria, i think you are safe enough and someone worth getting to know, I am barely here, we should meet /or here is my number text me this is maria from tinder/okkupid so i know who you are blaha blah...

        • Ok thanks guys. But what about this one:
          • Today - 7:42pm
            Me: I read your profile and it would never work between us. Weíd have too much fun together! Iím Sarge
          • Today - 8:48pm
            Her: Hmm I love a good challenge, we might as well give it a go, burn the whole place down and just see what happens donít ya think?
          • Me: Wow, youíre feisty arenít you?
          • Today - 9:03pm
            Her: Hahah just determined to make the most of everything always hahah
          • Me: Youíre adorable. You gotta stop or Iíll fall for you. So aside from squeezing every drop out of lifeís experiences, what would you say sets you apart from other girls?
          • Her: Hahah are you trying to get me to sell myself to you sir? Hahah

          • Me: Totally, whatís the price again?
          • Her: Everything you got heheh
          • Today - 9:19pm

            Me: Hmm, not sure itís worth it
          • Her: Everyoneís wrong sometimes I guess hahah

          • Me: Well I forgive you, because you seem like a free spirit. But Iím afraid youíd just use me for sex and dump me
          • Her: You poor poor thing. We must take care of your fragile heart hahah

          • Me: How do you plan to do that?
          • Her: I hear dudes like sandwiches?

          • Me: Sandwiches are nice.
          • Her: Iíll even get some of that panini press action going for ya

          • Me: Now youíre talking.
          • So hard
          • To resist
          • Today - 9:34pm
          • Her: Donít resist. Self control is for people who manifest regret rumours

          • Me: Youíre bad. Iíll bet you have a lair where you take unsuspecting guys like me
          • Her: I was going to make a joke about a kill room but then I realized you donít know me well enough to realize how hilarious and dry my sense of humour is, so thank god I didnít say that....

          • Me: Yeah I would have bolted for sure
          • Her: Thank god I didnít say that then

          • Me: Youíre cute when youíre crushing
          • But I think we should meet in public just to be safe. No late night rendezvous
          • Her: I think so too. I want you to feel safe

          • Me: Youíre evil. Whatís your schedule like?
          • Her: Honestly pretty fucking terrible. I have my final paper due on Sunday and bachelorette party stuff all weekend so my lifeís basically going to be a disaster through to next Monday!
          • Just now!

            Me: Looks like I dodged a bullet then. Letís touch base next monday
          • Her: Lol great
          EDIT: Also a few questions:

          1. What to do in text once I get them off the site? I suck at texting.

          2. How can I get with a girl who I'm framing as "I don't want to get with you/I'm trying to resist". Seems like any more I make towards her is me breaking frame. Like if I contact her on Monday now, she'll "know" I'm for sure into her. >>

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          • Skills360

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            tears coming down my eyes, sooooooooooooo good! :-)


            I told you, he maria this is sarge ok kupid, what are you up to./doing besides thinking of me and smiling?

          • SargeMaximus

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            Thanks Skills! I’ll do that and let you know how it’s going. Thanks for those Todd videos too, this was huge inspiration from those.

            I didn’t get her number tho...

        • Originally posted by Velasco View Post
          SargeMaximus

          "I can see how I asked too many questions for sure"

          uhhh ya think?

          "Me:
          I can relate. Grew up in a small town. But if youíre just looking for a chat buddy perhaps try a chat room? Or do you intend to drive all the way to [my city] should we decide to meet someday?

          Her:
          Itís not that far away. And yes, should I find someone Iíd like to spend time with I would come to visit and be happy to have them visit me in the mountains also. I really like my alone time so I prefer to see someone on a not so full time basis."

          After this part, where she's not only qualified herself to you, but also made it clear she's down for a Fuckbuddy relationship (or did you not catch that part?) then get the number. So for example to her text, I'd reply something like:

          "cool. you know, I think I might just know someone who would be perfect for what you're looking for. yeah. he's a pretty laid back guy. LOVES girls who message him first on [dating app your using]. send me your number...and maybe he'll text you later tonight
          Yeah I totally missed that. I'm too focused on what I'm doing I think (which is necessary otherwise I wouldn't be doing things this way)

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          • Ok, I still need answers to my questions above. Especially with the girl that Skills said I did well with but I don't think he noticed I told her I'd talk to her this Monday (almost a week away) and I didn't get her number.


            And now here are 2 more convos that went flat. Second one is freestyling a bit, but first one I was trying to do Todd stuff like before but I think I went too far or something. Feedback please!

            EDIT: First girl got back to me this morning. See below.

            Girl # 1

            Me:
            You look like trouble

            Her:
            Who?! Me?! Never...


            Me:
            Thatís what all the trouble makers say, youíre not fooling me

            Her:


            Me:
            So whatís your story?

            Her:
            PFFFFT how much time ya got??

            Me:
            Not much, talk fast

            Her:
            Wow, that actually made me laugh out loud. Well done, sir.

            Me:
            Thanks doll. But I still know nothing about you

            Her:
            Ok highlight reel!

            Single mom (long story within itself)
            Born and raised in [city]
            Run a group home for adults with ultra complex behaviours and mental health
            Suicide interventionist for CPS on the side
            Did kung fu competitively for 13 years, now I run.
            UMMMM and I donít park in my garage. Itís my art studio.

            Your turn.

            Her:
            OH and my name is [name] (rhymes with [word]). Most people call me [name].

            Me:
            Wow [name] thatís an impressive list. I like that youíre an interventionist thatís really cool. Respect. Also Iím glad you know king fu cause youíll have to defend my honour eventually Iím sure. Yes reading your list tells me things would never work out between us because weíd have too much fun together!

            Me:
            As for me, Iím a pretty simple guy. I want to take over the world one day and stuff like that. I also value my independence so if youíre looking for another kid Iím not the guy for you as I keep that shit under wraps.

            Her (got back to me like 12 hours later. In the early morning): Oh geez. If I'm defending your honor you're obviously the trohble maker. Hahahaha umm no, one kid is enough for me.

            QUESTION: Should I number close? Or go the "Well you seem safe enough to meet" route? (what's the whole line btw Skills? Thanks!) I was also thinking of saying something like "I don't know if you could handle the trouble we'd get into "


            Girl # 2

            Me:
            You look like trouble

            Her:
            That is so rude

            Me:
            No youíre so rude

            Her:
            You are being very offensive and violent

            Me:
            So are you

            Her:
            Why do you keep reversing what I say?

            Me:
            Why not?

            Her:
            I agree, why wouldn't you? It's what any sane person would do

            Me:
            Exactly. Unlike you

            Her:
            No, unlike you

            Me:
            No you

            Her:
            Please, you.

            Me:
            Youíd better

            Her:
            I think it would be better if you better'd

            Me:
            Nah

            Her:
            No yes no pls

            Me:
            Hmm say please again

            Her:
            No you say please again please say it

            Me:
            No. You. Or Iíll spank you

            Her:
            You spank you no yes please

            Me:
            Thatís it Iím spanking you
            Last edited by SargeMaximus; 08-16-2018, 12:57 PM.

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            • More From Girl # 1 from above:


              Me:
              As for me, Iím a pretty simple guy. I want to take over the world one day and stuff like that. I also value my independence so if youíre looking for another kid Iím not the guy for you as I keep that shit under wraps.

              Her:
              Oh geez. If Iím defending youíre honour youíre obviously the trouble maker.
              Hahaha ummm no. One kid is enough for me.


              Me:
              Got me there. Well you are safe enough and someone worth getting to know..... What's your schedule look like?

              Her:
              I work all weekend... but Iím done at 4pm, and my kiddo is gonna be away at my cottage, so I should have some free time.


              Me:
              Cool, I didnít know you had a cottage. Done at 4pm today?

              Her:
              I do, and I am! Thank god.


              Me:
              I hear you. Unfortunately Iím working till about 7 but we could grab a drink at 9ish. What area of the city are you in?

              Her:
              Hereís a fun/random fact I learned the hard way today. Did you know if you are charged with a crime and called to appear in court, you canít actually plead guilty if itís a Tuesday or Thursday?? Only Monday Wednesday Fridayís when the supreme judge is in. *♀️ (for the record the court appearance was for a client, not me)


              Her:
              Iím way down in the south


              Me:
              Wait, youíre a lawyer too? Thatís cool, but why would you want to plead guilty?

              As for a spot, you know [place]?

              Her:
              No no no Iím just here as the guardian at his court appearance. Heís got his own lawyer. Cause he IS guilty, incredibly so, and has no hope of fighting it.

              I do know it yes


              Me:
              Sounds like a complicated thing. Guardian? Like your step kid?

              and cool, Iíll see you there at 9

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              • Got a date with that girl. I told her I had to run and she should give me her number and she did while saying some more banter. I didn't reply. Should I have?

                EDIT: Girl FLAKED on me. Messaged me thusly:


                Her:
                Hey! I donít have your number so Iím kinda stuck messaging you here.

                Iím getting called in for an intervention. The tricky thing is that it could take 5 minutes, or it could be 30 hours. :/ I have zero way of knowing.

                I texted her:

                Me: Hey [name] it's Sarge from OKC [She's from POF tho. >< I messed that up]. Was just about to text you. Now you have my number anyways. Let me know how the intervention goes and if we're still on for 9 or not. Talk to you later.

                No response for an hour and when I got home I checked POF and she's online. >>

                SO, she lost interest somehow so please, guys, look at the interchange between me and her and help me improve!

                Here's the whole interaction in it's entirety:


                Me:
                You look like trouble

                Her:
                Who?! Me?! Never...



                Me:
                Thatís what all the trouble makers say, youíre not fooling me


                Her:



                Me:
                So whatís your story?

                Her:
                PFFFFT how much time ya got??

                Me:
                Not much, talk fast

                Her:
                Wow, that actually made me laugh out loud. Well done, sir.


                Me:
                Thanks doll. But I still know nothing about you

                Her:
                Ok highlight reel!

                Single mom (long story within itself)
                Born and raised in [city]
                Run a group home for adults with ultra complex behaviours and mental health
                Suicide interventionist for CPS on the side
                Did kung fu competitively for 13 years, now I run.
                UMMMM and I donít park in my garage. Itís my art studio.

                Your turn.


                Her:
                OH and my name is [name] (rhymes with [word]). Most people call me [name].


                Me:
                Wow [name] thatís an impressive list. I like that youíre an interventionist thatís really cool. Respect. Also Iím glad you know king fu cause youíll have to defend my honour eventually Iím sure. Yes reading your list tells me things would never work out between us because weíd have too much fun together!

                Me:
                As for me, Iím a pretty simple guy. I want to take over the world one day and stuff like that. I also value my independence so if youíre looking for another kid Iím not the guy for you as I keep that shit under wraps.

                Her:
                Oh geez. If Iím defending youíre honour youíre obviously the trouble maker.
                Hahaha ummm no. One kid is enough for me.


                Me:
                Got me there. Well you are safe enough and someone worth getting to know..... What's your schedule look like?

                Her:
                I work all weekend... but Iím done at 4pm, and my kiddo is gonna be away at my cottage, so I should have some free time.


                Me:
                Cool, I didnít know you had a cottage. Done at 4pm today?

                Her:
                I do, and I am! Thank god.


                Me:
                I hear you. Unfortunately Iím working till about 7 but we could grab a drink at 9ish. What area of the city are you in?

                Her:
                Hereís a fun/random fact I learned the hard way today. Did you know if you are charged with a crime and called to appear in court, you canít actually plead guilty if itís a Tuesday or Thursday?? Only Monday Wednesday Fridayís when the supreme judge is in. *Āä️ (for the record the court appearance was for a client, not me)


                Her:
                Iím way down in the south


                Me:
                Wait, youíre a lawyer too? Thatís cool, but why would you want to plead guilty?

                As for a spot, you know [place]?

                Her:
                No no no Iím just here as the guardian at his court appearance. Heís got his own lawyer. Cause he IS guilty, incredibly so, and has no hope of fighting it.

                I do know it yes


                Me:
                Sounds like a complicated thing. Guardian? Like your step kid?

                and cool, Iíll see you there at 9


                Her:
                No, well kind of. When an adult with disabilities or mental health is deemed unfit to make decisions about their own life theyíre appointed a public guardian to make them. So I guess in a way itís like being a step parent... but without the financial responsibility. Heís got trustees for that.


                Me:
                Oh heís part of your group home. What kind of organized crime are you running over there?!

                Her:
                Exactly.
                Sigh. Yeah. Iím not exactly enthused about this guy being in my group home to be honest. They moved him in while I was on my maternity leave... probably cause they knew I would have said no if I was actually there. For good reason.... Drug dealers rolling around at all hours of the night to collect money and trying to sell cocaine to the other clients for instance. Itís a sketchy situation Iím not happy about.


                Me:
                But Iím guessing you have no choice? Or are you getting a cut of the action?

                Her:
                No choice.

                I WISH. He claims he makes $1400 a day! He also claims heís selling ďwater and paintď so, I dunno how seriously to take him. I told him I wanted in, he told me Iíd be bad at it.


                Me:
                1400 a day is not amount. But hey I gotta run. Give me your number so I can text if anything changes [Typo. This was supposed to say "1400 is not a bad amount"]

                Her:
                Itís a decent amount for someone who sits on their ass all day! Way easier money than what I gotta do to earn mine hahaha
                ###-###-####


                Her:
                Hey! I donít have your number so Iím kinda stuck messaging you here.

                Iím getting called in for an intervention. The tricky thing is that it could take 5 minutes, or it could be 30 hours. :/ I have zero way of knowing.

                EDIT 2: Then she got back to me just now (45 mins ;later):

                Her: I don't see this wrapping up anytime soon

                I messaged her back 30 mins later:

                Me: No worries. Stay strong
                Last edited by SargeMaximus; 08-17-2018, 02:13 AM.

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                • Had another convo. This one I think I said too much compared with the girl who didn't seem to be invested at all. How do you amp up investment with these types of girls?

                  Also, how was my framing? I was using the "you'd just use me for sex" frame but I think it just ended up sounding pathetic. Totally not how I thought it would go. I don't know how to pull that gambit off.


                  e:
                  I read your profile and it would never work between us. Weíd have too much fun together! Iím Sarge

                  Her:
                  Lol hi


                  Me:
                  Hey [name]. Howís your night going?

                  Her:
                  Not bad urs?


                  Me:
                  Same. Just got home from work. Iím sad that summer is almost over

                  Her:
                  What do u do? N ya same


                  Me:
                  Yeah weíll just have to enjoy it while it lasts. But hmmm guess!

                  Her:
                  Lol u no honestly


                  Me:
                  Not gonna guess?

                  Her:
                  Ummm... u build things?


                  Me:
                  No but good guess cause I used to. No Iím in sales and I love it but work is work and Iíd much rather have so much money I didnít have to work. Hbu?

                  Her:
                  Oh nice n i itís work at a coffee shop


                  Me:
                  Sweet. Hopefully you get free coffee. Have you done any traveling?

                  Her:
                  Lol ya i do and no i really wish i could thou u?


                  Me:
                  Yeah Iíve been around. Where would you go if you won the lottery tomorrow and how long would you stay?

                  Her:
                  Id take my son to Disney land and Disney world and probably a week or 2 at each and get everything in all the parks


                  Me:
                  Nice. I been to Disney world when I was 8. Super fun. But you need a vacation for just you. Where would you go if your son was babysat and you were just getting away?

                  Her:
                  Bahamas forsure i would go there for atleast 2 weeks


                  Me:
                  Now youíre talking! Bahamas sounds great. Beaches, warm weather, very little clothing. Paradise.

                  Her:
                  Ive always wanted to go there! What about u?


                  Me:
                  Yeah I could be persuaded to go there, but youíd have to buy the tickets!

                  Her:
                  Lmao if i has the money to go i would


                  Me:
                  Yeah and youíd take me too

                  Her:
                  Haha so you think


                  Me:
                  Yeah but Iím not sure I can go with you cause I donít know you very well

                  Her:
                  Id go alone anyways


                  Me:
                  Itís better that way. I personally want to see the sights not stay in the hotel room all trip

                  Her:
                  Exactly now ur getting it


                  Me:
                  Yeah I see through your innocent act

                  Her:
                  Never said i was

                  ME:
                  Thatís what Iím afraid of. Youíd just use me for sex and dump me

                  Her:
                  And why would i date u??


                  Me:
                  Cause Iím not just a human sex toy!

                  Her:
                  But im not that easy to sleep
                  With either soooooo


                  Me:
                  Good. Cause itís no fun being used

                  Her:
                  Thatís true


                  ME:
                  You do seem to understand. Letís say hypothetically I was interested, what are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your looks?

                  Her:
                  Loyal and trustworthy


                  Me:
                  Both good qualities. Let me sleep on it

                  Her:
                  Lol

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                  • Another one:
                    • Today - 2:51pm
                      I read your profile and it would never work between us. Weíd have too much fun together! Iím Sarge
                    • Today - 7:35pm
                      Hahaha better be careful! Ive heard having too much fun can be dangerous!
                    • Today - 7:53pm
                      Very dangerous, which is why we should stay far away from each other

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                    • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
                      Had another convo. This one I think I said too much compared with the girl who didn't seem to be invested at all. How do you amp up investment with these types of girls?

                      Also, how was my framing? I was using the "you'd just use me for sex" frame but I think it just ended up sounding pathetic. Totally not how I thought it would go. I don't know how to pull that gambit off.


                      Me:
                      Sweet. Hopefully you get free coffee. Have you done any traveling?

                      Her:
                      Lol ya i do and no i really wish i could thou u?


                      Me:
                      Yeah Iíve been around. Where would you go if you won the lottery tomorrow and how long would you stay?

                      I'd reserve the "lottery" question to girls who actually like and do travel because that's something they highly value. (so like, to your "have you done any traveling?", if they'd reply something along the lines of "omg I lovvvve traveling", she'd be very hype for the follow up lottery question and give you a really nice response with words you can use back to her.

                      so because this girl doesn't traveling and wishes she could, I'd describe all the benefits of why I think traveling is great ("Yeah I love it. I mean, you get to meet some really interesting characters with unique background stories...instead of seeing the same old faces everyday hearing the same old shit (something she probably does). And I really like the freedom to act anyway you like because no one knows who the fuck you are...so you can do things you'd never do back home. Because no one will ever find out (setting "discreet" frame)) to make her really feel like she's truly missing out on life, while simultaneously presenting yourself as the solution...the kind of guy who can fill the void you just created in her.

                      "ME:
                      Thatís what Iím afraid of. Youíd just use me for sex and dump me"

                      why would she dump you? that implies you suck in bed. Better: "you'd just use me for hot sweaty passionate sex like all the other girls ....guys have feelings too you know!"

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                        The "You'd use me for sex and dump me" is a line by Todd Valentine I believe (one of them).

                        Anyhow I DO suck in bed. Got PE. I can make girls cum a lot with my fingers tho…

                        Anyhow, why is no one helping with the other girls? The ones I actually made date plans with and who I need to know how to talk to on Monday?! Them are the ones I'm interested in, but thanks for the feedback.

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                      for Monday girl I'd text:

                      "hey kill room girl, whats ur #?" then tease her a little bit over text. the end the conversation first..without mentioning Monday. Then on Monday, text her in the evening (tease first) to set up a date.

                      Always get the number at a high point in the interaction. the goal is get the girls off online and into your phone so you can set up a date asap.

                      as for intervention girl, she'll message you back if she's still interested.

                      Patience. Go talk to other girls (in real life) in the meantime.

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                        Ok thanks man. Unfortunately kill room girl deleted her profile. But I'll know for next time. Thanks.

                    • Just had a girl tell me it would be worth meeting and I told her weíd meet in the week and for her to give me her number and she stopped responding. Think she wanted to meet tonight?

                      edit: actually I did end up getting her number. Texted a bit but no plans were made
                      Last edited by SargeMaximus; 08-19-2018, 02:48 PM.

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