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  • So she gave you her number? In other words, this worked? What’s the problem?

    Personally, after her “in bed in my underware” comment, I would have taken things in a teasing, sexual direction instead of going into your question stack, but it seems to be working for you anyway.

    I assume you are texting with her now?

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    • Skills360

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      wholly fuck! freestyling means as per Straight line, getting off to space talk i thought you knew, JESUS CHRIST BRO... get off drugs......specially acid no mas....

      Open, banter,(showing ATTRACTIVE personality, qualifying questions, move her off the app/or go for meet , close = straight line, what don't you understand again i have explained it to you 300 times or more...my point is when she gave you number you are in the straghtline she complied, a girl online that is not interested but never give you her number or keep replying

    • No More Mr Nice Guy
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      if you are Goodnuf to wrangle an invite to her place, go for it.

      But failing that, try to meet in a more neutral location...And set up a day to if you have to. Slow and steady often wins the race.

    • SargeMaximus

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      The whole reason I’m learning game is so that I will be good enough to go straight to her place. There’s no point otherwise. Neutral location date is boring

  • More from convo:

    Me: I only have an appetite for human females

    Her: Yeah but you didn't say you're not a dinosaur.

    Her: I mean I just have to come armed to the teeth I guess. *laughing emoji*

    Me: Hard to do in your panties

    Her: Not for me

    Me: Hmm, maybe I should come over and test that theory

    Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.

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    • No More Mr Nice Guy
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      “So, Any dinosaur friendly meeting spots near you? “

    • No More Mr Nice Guy
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      She’s agreed to meet! Now it’s just logistics.

      Get in front of her, your odds of seduction have just gone way up.

  • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
    More from convo:

    Me: I only have an appetite for human females

    Her: Yeah but you didn't say you're not a dinosaur.

    Her: I mean I just have to come armed to the teeth I guess. *laughing emoji*

    Me: Hard to do in your panties

    Her: Not for me

    Me: Hmm, maybe I should come over and test that theory

    Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.
    you: "don't get ahead of yourself i don't give it up that easy, nor i was planning to go to your house, i was just flirting....

    please lets not judge each other based on bad experience i had my share of psychos and stalkers and i would not wish that on my worst enemy blah blah....

    I would love to meet you in neutral location to see if the vibe and chemestry is there just a quick meet and greet... let me know where you are comming from so i can give you directions...

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    • SargeMaximus

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      Too late skills, she gave me the whole "I'm busy" WTF. This shit doesn't work. You actually go for the meet and she does this. Do I really have to dance the line of disinterest this much? Fuck.

    • No More Mr Nice Guy
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      show us her exact response, then we can advise.

      I suspect she is just busy NOW, but could meet later, potentially

    • SargeMaximus

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      Look at my latest reply for convo Nice Guy.

  • She did NOT agree to meet. This shit happens every time I try to meet em. Observe:
    Me: Hmm, maybe I should come over and test that theory
    Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.

    Me: Fair enough. What general area of the city are you in? I'm in [area]

    Her: Same

    Me: Cool. You have a car?

    Her: Nope. I've got epilepsy anyway

    Me: Oh my.

    Her: Yeah haha it's pretty well controlled but heat waves trigger it for me so I try to stay inside

    Me: Got you. Well the chapters at [place] has a Starbucks and air conditioning if you're up for it

    Her: I'm busy till I'm done moving lol

    /\ THIS SHIT always happens when I go for a meet. Every time, doesn't matter how much I teased them.

    I haven't responded and don't think I will. IMO, I lost frame the instant I texted her instead of ghosting and waiting for her to text me.

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    • SargeMaximus

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      Well I texted her “I hear you, moving sucks!” And no response

    • No More Mr Nice Guy
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      Give it time - you have to learn to be more patient!

      and if she doesn’t respond, there’s no harm in pinging her in a couple of days. If she ignores that too, it’s probably a lost cause.

    • SargeMaximus

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      Dude I can't see how you don't think it's already a lost cause! :Pinging her just serves to chase further and further and get more and more pussy in her eyes. I mean she went from "in my underwear in bed" to "I'm moving" what else do you need to accept that she's obviously turned off?

      And yes, it was because I texted her and fell into her frame. That whole "I never text first" was a shit test IMHO

  • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post
    She did NOT agree to meet. This shit happens every time I try to meet em. Observe:
    Me: Hmm, maybe I should come over and test that theory
    Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.

    Me: Fair enough. What general area of the city are you in? I'm in [area]

    Her: Same

    Me: Cool. You have a car?

    Her: Nope. I've got epilepsy anyway

    Me: Oh my.

    Her: Yeah haha it's pretty well controlled but heat waves trigger it for me so I try to stay inside

    Me: Got you. Well the chapters at [place] has a Starbucks and air conditioning if you're up for it

    Her: I'm busy till I'm done moving lol

    /\ THIS SHIT always happens when I go for a meet. Every time, doesn't matter how much I teased them.

    I haven't responded and don't think I will.
    first you need to feel the waters to find out intellegence before pitching a meet....(in straight line is the client at a 5 or at a 9 before closing)

    Things such as how does your schedule looks like?

    when are your free etc...

    build future projection of exitment and a good time

    and you need to close properly this:

    "maybe i should come over" was you telling her "let me come fuck you" subcommunication....

    and even then she did not totally blew you off...

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    • SargeMaximus

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      Skills I DO want to fuck her and I thought she wanted to fuck me too. What am I missing?

    • Skills360

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      plausible deniability...

  • By the way you totally got off the closes some are pure evil, bd has some good ones too, need to look for them, some are cocporn:


    Closing:

    Pureevil:

    One thing that may help out a little is to pitch an insta meet or same day meet.

    "That's cool. What you up to? Grab a drink in a bit?"

    This 1. strikes while the iron is hot and 2. sets her up to tell you her availability. Most likely reply is "I can't tonight but tomorrow I'm free." Although tomorrow she may very well ghost on you lol. 2nd most likely reply is "sure! I'm off at 6." 3rd most likely reply is something like "I just got in from a wedding" that skirts the meet pitch entirely.

    It won't be a massive game changer but may help make more meets happen
    Cocporn

    I am a little skeptical of messaging to much on pof with people i don't know lets' meet for a cup of coffee or a drink an evening?

    do you want to get together for a cup of beer and see if holds water...


    You can add unless you have another favorite place or other suggestion.

    to objection:

    I just feel i spent too much time typing away on msn on the good old days without actually meeting people.

    OR

    tHAT IS WHY YOU ARE ON TINDER, YOU NEVER REALLY GET TO KNOW ANYONE BY JUST SENDEING EACH OTHER PARTS OF THE ALPHABET.

    or

    yes. I just feel is hard to get to know someone just sending a bunch of texts. But is easy face to face.



    my method is to wait for them to hint a meet.... so i never have to use them[

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    • SargeMaximus

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      I thought she DID hint for a meet when I said "Hard to do in your panties" and she said "Not for me "

  • no that is her flirting hint for a meet is:

    "papi what are you doing toninght"

    "till what time do you work"

    "when you get off from work usually"


    "Are you working tomorrow"(got this one yesterday as a matter of fact)

    or such they ping you for activity testing or they ping you for schedule testing = hinting for a meet


    women speak a different language very vague...


    you don't have to wait for a girl to hint you, cause is kind of hard to do(i am really good at it, but i been doing this for ever), try pitching closes

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    • SargeMaximus

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      Ok, thanks Skills.. I love the closes btw, should be big help.

  • see what no more mr. nice guy did:

    “So, Any dinosaur friendly meeting spots near you? “
    he is segawy convo into pinging to see her level of interest before pitching a meet, that you need to do if you are going to go for a meet... (straight line is the customer 8 or 9 or a 5 level of interest,see what i mean)

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    • Originally posted by SargeMaximus View Post

      Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.

      Me: Fair enough. What general area of the city are you in? I'm in [area]

      Her: Same

      Me: Cool. You have a car?

      Her: Nope. I've got epilepsy anyway

      Me: Oh my.

      Her: Yeah haha it's pretty well controlled but heat waves trigger it for me so I try to stay inside

      Me: Got you. Well the chapters at [place] has a Starbucks and air conditioning if you're up for it

      Her: I'm busy till I'm done moving lol
      your in sales, so your familiar with the yes ladder, right?

      well you got 2 "NO"s back to back (1. No car. 2. No to meeting during the day because of heat waves) = nahhhh

      better:

      Her: Lol I don't invite people to my house. Hard no man. I've been stalked by dudes from POF including a dude who assaulted me and threatened my kids. I'll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here.

      you: haha that's fucking insane you'll have to tell me about it.

      you: what area of the city are you in? i'm in [area]

      Her: Same

      you: cool. there's this really cool restaurant I like to go to. that has a great drink selection. what time do you think you'll be free tonight?

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      • SargeMaximus

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        I am listening, just telling you what works for me in sales and it can be hard to get away from that method because it works for me.

      • Skills360

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        yes he is right dude, like i said ping to see the interest level and that is what he is saying that you got 2 nos back to back bro isn't did straight line to gauge were the client is before the close... he is saying you got to nos... listen to what he saying...

      • SargeMaximus

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        ok I don't get it then. I know I got no's... so what?

    • "Well I texted her “I hear you, moving sucks!” And no response"

      she's busy texting Chad atm

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      • SargeMaximus

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        Ok, sent. Thanks for this btw

      • No More Mr Nice Guy
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        NP... I was interested to see what would happen if you got some real time help. I hope you are starting to realize that some of your preconceptions are just plain wrong.

        And I don’t mean to be totally negative… You are actually doing much better than you were a few months ago, you are actually starting to have real conversations instead of blindly following a script.

      • SargeMaximus

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        Lol, dude check out my comment to skills.My preconception was 100% right.

    • LoL! She got back to be:

      Her: Hopefully by like... September 7th ish?

      Her: That gives me enough time to unpack, school shop, register the kids, take a shower and maybe feed myself once or twice for survival

      Her: Cuz I haven't done a single one of my "usual September tasks" like back to school shopping so I basically gave myself a tiny ass deadline and now I'm hustling haaaaaaaaaard


      ROFL You guys still think she's keen. Oh my god. lol

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      • SargeMaximus

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        I’m trying velascos suggestion thank you both I do appreciate the help despite how this turned out. I still say texting her first was failing a shit test tho

      • No More Mr Nice Guy
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        totally disagree about the shit test. I don’t think she would still be talking to you if that was the case.

        Will be interested to hear how Velasco‘s suggestion pans out. I am guessing there is about a 50% chance it will blow you out, but if it works ....

      • SargeMaximus

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        Nope, she's not interested at all. And I took ALL your guys suggestions so you can't tell me that was the right thing to do.

    • The whole reason I’m learning game is so that I will be good enough to go straight to her place. There’s no point otherwise. Neutral location date is boring
      Well, that’s a nice goal, but you can’t even consistently get women to meet you for coffee or a drink.

      Gotta learn to walk before you can run.

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      • by the way the goal is not to feed you lines is for you to understand what is going on and by the way, with me personally from the first 1-10 answer the way she did it, i would personally been like whatever with this girl if it happens, happens but i would have put her in my shit list, but that is me personally since she for my critiria she is damage goods....

        but who cares you got to practice now stop asking question by now you should know more or less what to do and how structures work... just make sure you follow a structure of open, banter, qualify, complience>move off app to phone or meet...

        and work again multiple girls... dude out of 5-10 girls most of them never meet anyways, you meet 1 or 2 just like any other game...

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        • No More Mr Nice Guy
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          You win some and you lose some.

          But if you give up the minute things don’t go the way you expect, you’ll lose a lot more often.

        • Skills360

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          so do it your way and stop wasting everyones time... any of the 3 people helping you would have gotten the dick inside the pussy walls of that girl if we wanted....

          though i personally for my criteria of what i am looking for would have been "no" cause she does not meet what i am looking for , single man, health issues, etc...

          But i could have still fuck her if i wanted to... Of course you totally misunderstood that

        • SargeMaximus

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          I get my pua coach this Friday. Sorry you feel your wasting your time. From my end I see it as I already learned the lesson and need help in other areas but whatever guess no matter what I do your gonna hate on me even tho I tried all your suggestions

      • My text suggestion was a Hail Mary...which means, there was a high probability it wasn't gonna work anyway. But I see the takeaway you took from all this as "see told u guyz she wasn't interested. It was already over from when I first texted her... to which she replied by teasing me with the dinosaur joke and playing along with the panties joke. From now on if anyone refuses to follow the frame EVEN ONCE, she's done. NEXT!!!"

        ^ good luck ever getting laid with that extreme numbers game approach.

        She's a bored single mom dealing with health issues at the moment. She WAS down to meet ("ll meet you somewhere but yeah, no one's coming here".).

        The problem is there were too many NOs at the end..which makes it easier to be congruent to that

        can I come over?. NO.
        do you have a car (why the fuck did you ask this)? NO.
        want to meet me at starbucks even tho you just said going out in this heat will trigger your epilepsy? NO...uhh i'm busy even tho I said I could meet you somewhere a couple texts ago.

        that's the lesson you should take from this.

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      • Latest dead-end:




        Me:
        I read your profile and it would never work between us. We’d have too much fun together! I’m Sarge

        Her:
        Damn it!! Wait, fun? I’m down!


        Me:
        You’re eager aren’t you? I like that. But are you a giver or a taker?

        Her:
        Definitely a giver


        Me:
        That pleases me. But I also gotta be careful who I get involved with. How happy are you in your life right now say from 1-10 (10 being best)?

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