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  • rAFC, Quick and Practical Advice Please..

    No point in me defending whatever ego issues I have about thinking I've done enough to be successful with women. I'll be frank. What do I do first? Start cold approaching or updating appearance? Should I read up on things or just go out? What to do on a low budget?
    DJ.

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    I'd suggest getting out there and cold approaching first, update your style and appearance as you go along.

    Mainly because it's far too easy to get into that endless loop of "i'll start going out when i look good enough. . ." and never going out. Plus you'll be getting immediate feedback from fashion / appearance adjustments if you're already going out and meeting women while making said updates.

    Same thing with reading things, you want to go be going out first, then you can easily come back to get advice and do required readings. This way you avoid the trap of "i'll start going out when i've read enough. . ." and never going out. Also if you are on a low budget day game might be the choice for you.
    “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

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    • #3
      Agree with Bacchus, get started talking to women now, talk to cute girls every day and don't ever miss a day. Even if it's just asking one for the time or directions, your every day habit should become interacting with women, NOT reading pickup materials.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Impulse View Post
        I wasnt planning on posting but this is kj advice Bacchus...and I have 15 years of infield experience...you have 2.5.....

        Let me explain politely

        He should improve his appearance first and not later. Later on, he can improve his style and appearance ON TOP of that as he goes along..but some initial appearance improvement has to come first

        This is to maximise his chances of positive reactions from the get go - real external wins leads to enhanced motivation and improvement in game. If he gets negative experiences it will wear him down and make the process a lot slower.

        Thats a beginner's lesson for noobs

        Now, please don't get all whiney and offended that I called you out..im trying to correct you politely but its difficult to do that over the internet
        Been doing this for 4 years dude, was active in the field before I had an account on here. . .

        Now onto your advice, there's not a lot of use in being a well dressed attractive guy if you've got crippling approach anxiety.

        The guy who doesn't even look as good but approaches regularly will get results and get laid more often. It's a fact that getting over AA then subsequently getting into the groove of regularly meeting women generally takes longer (and more mental effort) than buying some well fitting stylish clothes and getting a good haircut.

        Your point on improving your appearance to get positive reactions early on isn't necessarily a bad one. . . it's just that the vast majority of dudes use improving their appearance as a convenient excuse to avoid approaching at all and improving their game as a result. Plus dealing with rejections / failed pickups is part of learning the game.

        So I say it's best to get the ball rolling first, even if it's just a handful of approaches. Before looking to start maximizing ones appearance. Does that make sense?
        “You know I cant hear none of that spend the night shit... that kumbaya shit”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bacchus View Post

          Been doing this for 4 years dude, was active in the field before I had an account on here. . .

          Now onto your advice, there's not a lot of use in being a well dressed attractive guy if you've got crippling approach anxiety.

          The guy who doesn't even look as good but approaches regularly will get results and get laid more often. It's a fact that getting over AA then subsequently getting into the groove of regularly meeting women generally takes longer (and more mental effort) than buying some well fitting stylish clothes and getting a good haircut.

          Your point on improving your appearance to get positive reactions early on isn't necessarily a bad one. . . it's just that the vast majority of dudes use improving their appearance as a convenient excuse to avoid approaching at all and improving their game as a result. Plus dealing with rejections / failed pickups is part of learning the game.

          So I say it's best to get the ball rolling first, even if it's just a handful of approaches. Before looking to start maximizing ones appearance. Does that make sense?
          +1

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          • #6
            So, you are basically the poster child for PROCRASTINATION. Ref.: Hi. Short Intro. So why even ask, when you fucking know you will stick to your old routine of wasting time reading, while NOT talking to more girls and NOT doing squat to fix your looks & style.. Sorry dude, there is no hope for you. Just forget about girls and stick with porn.

            (If there was hope, you could start by finding out what ACTUALLY fixes procrastination. #12 #3 #2 #2 Even youtube has quality info on it now. The ones that talk about 'crafting a persona/role/character', not the ones that talk about 'goal>plan>action'. Those are what actually creates MORE procrastination.)

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            • #7
              Do both, just dress up somewhat good, do pushups or whatever :P
              And head out

              If hot women are around and you do nothing, you'll feel like crap
              Best way to stop that is talk to a few

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              • #8
                When I first started approaching women I had no style and didn't even shower regularly. Girls still responded well to me at times (some of my best reactions to date are from those days)

                So yeah, just get out there.

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                • #9
                  3-pronged attack, in order from least urgent to most urgent:

                  3. Get in shape; I consider this least urgent because this just takes some time, and I don't advocate waiting around and doing nothing till you're ripped.
                  2. Get a look: grooming, fashion, posture, etc. While this is an ongoing project, you can make big gains in a relatively short time in this arena, which is why I give it priority over physical fitness.
                  1. Do the noobie mission. You *have* done the noobie mission, haven't you? It's an oldie but a goodie, and you can do it while you're at the mall working on #2.

                  If you've never heard of the noob mission it's simply this: next time you're out and about, each time you see an attractive woman, give her a confident smile and a "hi." That's it. You're free to continue the conversation if you want, or scurry off... it's dipping a toe in the water. It's also an indication of your ability to succeed: if you can't or won't do this small thing, then PU is not going to work out for you.

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