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    Apologies for the overly dramatic title.
    My question is, why do some women, me included, like really rough sex? As in what is the psychology behind it?

    I've met a guy and he almost strangles me and hits me during sex but in a strange sort of way I really enjoy it, is that bad?

    i think I am obsessed with this guy, I don't know if I'm using the term right but I may have Oneitis

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    Its like you getting aggressive while have sex, and the pleasure makes feel good even after hitting
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    • #3
      I think it has to do with the fact that it feels like the guy is letting go emotionally and totally into you
      and you react to that with letting go as well?

      That definitely can make for better sex I think.


      /// Late reaction
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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      • #4
        Originally posted by letsgetlost View Post
        Apologies for the overly dramatic title.
        My question is, why do some women, me included, like really rough sex? As in what is the psychology behind it?

        I've met a guy and he almost strangles me and hits me during sex but in a strange sort of way I really enjoy it, is that bad?

        i think I am obsessed with this guy, I don't know if I'm using the term right but I may have Oneitis
        Its more engaging

        Some girls really like aggression
        Most girls like rough
        So long as they feel they can trust the dude with it of course, and it doesn't go some weird blow up doll direction (which will take the connect you feel and turn it into just as strong of a disconnect)

        For me, I ask about what girls like, and there are loads of things I consider totally normal
        And rough sex is totally easy peasy
        And I'm glad you enjoy it

        Definately don't feel uncomfortable about having stuff you like
        Its good

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        • #5
          Originally posted by letsgetlost View Post
          Apologies for the overly dramatic title.
          My question is, why do some women, me included, like really rough sex? As in what is the psychology behind it?

          I've met a guy and he almost strangles me and hits me during sex but in a strange sort of way I really enjoy it, is that bad?

          i think I am obsessed with this guy, I don't know if I'm using the term right but I may have Oneitis
          Evolutionary speaking, a huge part of our population is the result of rape. Genghis Khan wasn't a charmer, he was a brutal and systematic raper.

          Women who respond well to rape are more likely to reproduce because they have been raped through history. This is, more than anything else, a facet of how evolution works. If you reproduce, you stay here. If you don't your lineage dies.

          Dominance in pickup is about tapping into these things. You can choose to ignore this fact to make it more "romantic".

          Engaging in sex that is physically violent will be more pleasing to you because you are built that way from evolution. Cue "rough sex".

          tl;dr For a woman, wanting to be fucked (almost semi against her will) is a normal thing. There is nothing wrong with you. You lube up when guys are brutal and "have their way with you".

          I am not advocating rape in any way or form. I am just telling you how it is. Science shit.

          In my personal experience:

          • Girls will tell you to "have your way with me". Happened more times than I care to count.
          • Girls will tell you to "Be rougher". This doesn't mean you have to have a 50 inch penis and physically hurt them, it usually means you have to "manhandle" them a little.
          • They will tell you "I need you to pull my hair".
          • They will tell you straight out "I need you to strangle me a little".



          I actually have it as a main point in my strategy guide that women actually like being used. Not after, but during. It allows you to set up (and justify) a bunch of stuff.

          Me (on Tinder): Hi, what are you doing?
          Her: Just reading 50 Shades of Grey, what about you?
          Me: Well, you're getting banged hard tonight.

          This is any conversation with any girl ever, only condensed.

          Personally, I do screening game.
          Last edited by COCPORN; 07-17-2016, 01:05 PM. Reason: Less sharing, more caring
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          • #6
            Originally posted by COCPORN View Post
            ...
            Me (on Tinder): Hi, what are you doing?
            Her: Just reading 50 Shades of Grey, what about you?
            Me: Well, you're getting banged hard tonight.

            This is any conversation with any girl ever, only condensed.

            ...
            LOL!
            Here is another version:
            ....
            Her: Ooops, sorry.
            Me: you're not sorry yet, missy.
            Her: What do you mean
            Me: Your punishment will be swift, rough, and... deeply pleasurable.
            Her: If I'm lucky!(Direct.)
            OR
            Her: Reeeaaaally?!? (Shit testy)
            Me: blah, blah (change subject, long game) blah, blah
            Her: (Growing impatient, hopeful, worried the window may pass) So, how about that swift punishment you promised?

            Don't let any sign of submission go unpunished. Her submissiveness will resonate to your dominance, listen for it and reward with more dominance. it's a beautiful dance when both partners know what they are doing.
            Technique note: Pulling hair and light choking have worked less well for me than arms pinning or firmly guiding their hips against my body. Maybe I'm doing the choking wrong.(???)

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            • #7
              ... the posts before remind me of one of my own (unproven (yet)) theories:

              Girls orgasms aid conception
              When raped they don't orgasm but they just have sex, get wet etc.

              That way the chance that they conceive by those guys is lower
              This would be beneficial because this way they could "pick" a better "parent" for their kids..
              (They would orgasm stronger from sex with better future daddies
              and not with guys who won't stick around (e.g. rapists))

              therefor they would still enjoy dominance by a guy,
              but not really enjoy it as strongly as an emotional bond with a partner.

              Just like a guy is more likely to pairbond/get emotionally involved with a "better" matching partner for the best possible background for offspring (e.g. lower testosteron levels when guys pairbond and less attraction for other possible partners and higher attraction for pairbonded partner)

              This all matches with the following:
              Daddy's supportiveness matters for children's language, cognitive, and language development across ages and emotional regulation at 24 months
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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              • #8
                Originally posted by COCPORN View Post
                If you reproduce, you stay here. If you don't your lineage dies.
                It wouldn't be that hard to find someone to reproduce with one would think. It would be harder to find someone who is worthy of having children with.

                Dominance in pickup is about tapping into these things. You can choose to ignore this fact to make it more "romantic".
                I simply can't help but disagree here...

                Engaging in sex that is physically violent will be more pleasing to you because you are built that way from evolution. Cue "rough sex".
                I have had rough sex that was 100000 times less pleasurable to me than intense vanilla sex.

                It can be true for some girls though, but then you would have to take into account that not everyone has the same ancestors, and for some rough sex could have been the beneficial way of reproduction for their ancestors. And for others not.

                Science shit.
                Link it.

                Girls will tell you to "have your way with me". Happened more times than I care to count.
                I only do this with short-term guys, or when I don't trust them, actually.
                But again.. personal preferences.

                Girls will tell you to "Be rougher"
                Have you never had a girl tell you to go slower? Or go more gentle?
                Sounds biasing to focus on this kind of reactions and not other kind of reactions...

                I actually have it as a main point in my strategy guide that women actually like being used. Not after, but during. It allows you to set up (and justify) a bunch of stuff.
                Nothing against you, and I believe the girls you find may be like this truly..
                Don't think it's the golden solution though.

                Maybe it's just because of the amount of guys i have been with though...
                I personally hate it when I go see a guy go into that "I should use her"

                Personally, I do screening game.
                can this be influencing the preferences the girls you have been with exhibit?

                I think the main mistake people make when talking about females and males as gatekeepers..
                females are not the gatekeepers to sex, they are the gatekeepers to their own orgasms and therefor to children...

                Sex can lead to chilldren, but more likely... orgasm can truly go closer to be equal to children.


                I mean.. if they truly were gatekeepers to sex, where the hell does rape fit in?
                and if truly the goal was to get raped and then get kids.. why the hell would there be this whole dance of pairbonding and other shit?
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kit View Post
                  It wouldn't be that hard to find someone to reproduce with one would think. It would be harder to find someone who is worthy of having children with.


                  I simply can't help but disagree here...


                  I have had rough sex that was 100000 times less pleasurable to me than intense vanilla sex.

                  It can be true for some girls though, but then you would have to take into account that not everyone has the same ancestors, and for some rough sex could have been the beneficial way of reproduction for their ancestors. And for others not.


                  Link it.


                  I only do this with short-term guys, or when I don't trust them, actually.
                  But again.. personal preferences.


                  Have you never had a girl tell you to go slower? Or go more gentle?
                  Sounds biasing to focus on this kind of reactions and not other kind of reactions...


                  Nothing against you, and I believe the girls you find may be like this truly..
                  Don't think it's the golden solution though.

                  Maybe it's just because of the amount of guys i have been with though...
                  I personally hate it when I go see a guy go into that "I should use her"


                  can this be influencing the preferences the girls you have been with exhibit?

                  I think the main mistake people make when talking about females and males as gatekeepers..
                  females are not the gatekeepers to sex, they are the gatekeepers to their own orgasms and therefor to children...

                  Sex can lead to chilldren, but more likely... orgasm can truly go closer to be equal to children.


                  I mean.. if they truly were gatekeepers to sex, where the hell does rape fit in?
                  and if truly the goal was to get raped and then get kids.. why the hell would there be this whole dance of pairbonding and other shit?
                  Did you know that the cuttlefish literally can select which male she mates with and cannot be raped
                  They typically choose the cleverest cuttlefish, not the most bloviating ones

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpRtyvs46es
                  20 mins in

                  Strength displays are often not as powerful as displays of daring

                  So, the "rough" aspect isn't so much dominance as it is, the impressive ability of negotiating risks

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                  • #10
                    Some weird comments here...

                    In my little experience and from what women have told me there are at least two very different cases in which women like rough sex.

                    Case 1:

                    The woman has established deep trust with someone and knows she can let go of all her defenses completely. Going rougher and rougher can be something like a test of "can I really trust him?". They will over time disable all their defenses still in place that prevents them from reaching a state of psychical non-existence or non-ego, however you want to call it. When you reach the end of this process, as a woman you can either a) let a man control you completely which can be a very pleasurable thing or even b) have the man enter the very same state, reaching a double-flow-trance state together. Those don't have to be rough at all, but if you enter that flow-state, there's a chance of automatic in-between-roughness happening. I've noticed that when I enter this state together with my gf, we are usually drifting through all kinds of emotions quite naturally. Trying it out in a rather controlled state first with good responses might be a pleasurable experience in its own right.

                    Case 2:

                    Especially if there is no real connection with someone, heightening the intensity of sensory input might help to get off easier, simple as that. So if you're having a ONS with someone and you don't like him enough to trust him 100% but want to get off with him, going rough just might push you over the edge.

                    Jester

                    P.S.: Rape sucks and can destroy lives. Ask any victim. Seriously, don't rationalize this shit please O_o
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                    • #11
                      Kit I believe your theory may be wrong. I have heard rape often induces orgasm in women. Feel free to Google in order to verify.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Picasso View Post
                        Kit I believe your theory may be wrong. I have heard rape often induces orgasm in women. Feel free to Google in order to verify.


                        what kind of orgasm however?

                        there are orgasm and a real mindblowing orgasm and things in between in my eyes
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A

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                        • #13
                          I always feel a bit weird about rough sex. I like spitting in their mouths, light slapping her face, light choking, breath play, calling her names, etc. problem is most women tolerate it but when asked will tell me they don't really like it. A small fraction of the usually less hotter girls are into it. Occasionally one will even tell me to slap her. I met a weird one in China (was really from Chicago) who even had me make a video of it followed with her cum gobbling, saying thank you and I love you, getting slapped In return, and me laughing and snorting. She said she she needed it for when she fingered her pussy. Later she told me she showed it to her BF and he jacked off to it. She wasn't that attractive. I wish attractive women were the ones down for this shit.

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                          • #14
                            image.jpgI read this thread on the train ride home from kobe today. What great inspiration! Was meeting a chick that I knew was dtf but was gonna give me some ASD and LMR. So I devices to implement a very forceful frame. She was like no no no and all this stuff and I just did what I want. Know what? When I held frame and slapped her around a bit she perked right up like oh fuck he's actually gonna do it. I pulled some crazy shit with this woman and even had her ready to miss the last train. I may have to replace the tatami mats. I told her I owned her pussy and was gonna whore her out. I slapped her, fucked her, wrote my name over her cunt in marker. She loved it. When she trie to resist I became even more rough and dominant and she fell right in line. Walking home I kinda felt bad after I drop her at station I see a Japanese guy publicly slapping his girl around in a crowded train station. Um I hate to say it but no often means yes and this chick came some many times in addition to squirting an insane amount of juice all over my bedding. And futon through to the tatami. She said hands down best sex and never had even squirted before. So yeah I'm not saying rape women. That's wrong. But as I said to her: you've obviously never fucked a real man who knows how to make a woman feel like a real woman!
                            ps the pic is the guy slapping around his girl I the shinsaibashi station. No one gave a fuck. He was hitting her I the head like "stupid girl". Then she'd try to slink away and he'd push her back into the wall. Idk if this was a game they were playing so she could conveniently miss last train and have an excuse to get fucked or what?
                            Last edited by Travel&Museums; 09-06-2016, 06:20 PM.

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                            • #15
                              T&M,
                              if you get this feelin this girl will go beyond vanilla with you, like you explained
                              you could time-out the sex a little bit at some point... discuss her comfort levels atm etc, how far she can go etc
                              set up a safe word system (red; yellow; green)

                              Kind of a meta conv during sex or after/before
                              Especially when exploring around boundaries (with pain for instance), take a break sometimes so you are still playing on same team

                              I mean, once you establish this connection with a girl, that you have eachothers trust, the playing is amazing, she will say 'no' (depending on kind of play) or will tease she doesn't feel anything (with punishments) or that she doesn't learn (when disciplining)... you know, bratty kind of behavior. It's fun, gets the best out you, just don't get lost in it

                              Doesn't mean you should be seeking her approval etc.. (which you also didnt ) - this is more to establish a frame together and it's kind of part of leading

                              but anyway: i think you will do fine if you calibrate to the women and don't get lost in pushing non vanilla on vanilla (i think you have an eye for this)
                              this was merely an addition you could add in certain circumstances, it could give you a 'wild card' to go beyond her usual boundaries, cause you have checked on her and there is a safety system
                              (always respect the safe word)

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